RE: [ebxml-mktg-sc] Analyst document - promotion

[Alan Kotok <akotok@disa.org>]

Carol, David, et al.

I'm just catching up on e-mail after a few days with mortgage bankers in 
San Diego (to those in the frigid Northeast, eat your hearts out).

The incredible thing about the Meta Group report is its utter unreality to 
the real business world.  I just spent three days with the commercial 
mortgage banking industry, from small banks, loan brokers, and attorneys to 
giants like GMAC, JP Morgan, and Bank of America.  These folks want no 
lightweight solution.  Everyone wants full-service in their business: 
reliability, security, and value, but without sacrificing speed and 
agility.  This part of the industry is just beginning to define its 
business vocabulary and messages, and many of those involved in the effort 
wanted to learn more about ebXML

Once you start adding in BPEL4WS, SAML, WS Choreography Language, and the 
rest, do you think Web services will be any less heavyweight?  And they 
still have to get all the pieces to work together.  Look how long it took 
WS-I to come out with its first draft profile, and that's just SOAP, UDDI, 
and WSDL.

Bottom line (to use the analysts' convention): Business ain't easy and it 
ain't simple.  Even small businesses have complicated processes.  Any 
e-business framework has to be prepared to meet all key business needs, not 
just the ones a few IT vendors picked out.

Alan Kotok
Editor, < E-Business*Standards*Today />
http://www.disa.org/dailywire/
Data Interchange Standards Association
akotok@disa.org
+1 703-518-4174




At 02:52 PM 2/5/03 -0500, Carol Geyer wrote:
>Ah David, at last you're starting to think like an American!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David RR Webber - XML ebusiness [mailto:Gnosis_@compuserve.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 1:49 PM
>To: INTERNET:carol.geyer@oasis-open.org
>Cc: Moshe_Silverstein@iwaysoftware.com; ebxml-mktg-sc@lists.ebxml.org
>Subject: RE: [ebxml-mktg-sc] Analyst document - promotion
>
>
>Message text written by INTERNET:carol.geyer@oasis-open.org
> >
>Can you let me work this with META on Friday before we move forward?
>Carol
><<<<<<<<
>
>Carol,
>
>OK.   I'm taking a leaf out of Mr. Bush's book here.
>
>Building the massive retaliatory strike while letting the
>inspectors do their work ; -)
>
>Oh what the heck, we do all the inspections, we build up
>all the forces, we talk the talk, we show satellite
>photos and voice intercepts.
>
>Then we nuke the bastards anyway.
>
>SURPRISE!!!
>
>DW.
>
>p.s. When can I buy a good fuel cell car?