RE: [ebxml-mktg] Gartner & ebXML again

[David Frenkel <frenkel@worldnet.att.net>]

Here is the email for Wes:
wes.rishel@gartner.com

Regards,

David Frenkel
Business Development
GEFEG USA
Global Leader in Ecommerce Tools
www.gefeg.com
425-260-5030

-----Original Message-----
From: Duane Nickull [mailto:duane@xmlglobal.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:27 PM
To: Steve Capell
Cc: ebxml-mktg@lists.ebxml.org; Thompson,Jess
Subject: Re: [ebxml-mktg] Gartner & ebXML again

Steve:

Try conacting Jess Thompson or Wes Richel from Gartner.  I have cc'd
Jess but do not have Wes' email address.

I met Jess in Seattle and found he is very knowledgable on ebXML as well
as very open and fair in his analysis.

Duane Nickull

Steve Capell wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> Gartner is running a 5 day symposium in Sydney right now.  I am not
> attending but some of my customers (industry and government) are
> present.   I have spent some time over the last year convincing my
> customers that ebXML provides a solid foundation for scalable
> interoperability and that their B2B strategy should be based on ebXML
> principles.
> 
> Unfortunately Gartner presented ebXML in a very negative light (too
> complex, will never catch on, etc, etc).  Whether deserved or not,
> Gartner does represent a "trusted authority" on these issues so their
> comments are taken very seriously.
> 
> The consequence for the ebXML effort in Australia is not good and I
will
> probably have to think about re-positioning ebXML myself (I just cant
> fight Microsoft, IBM, Gartner, etc on my own..).
> 
> I have yet to meet a "technology analyst" that really understands this
> space so have a strong suspicion that much of the negative ("too
> complex") positioning is simply because Gartner themselves do not
> understand how the ebXML framework fits together and haw it can
address
> genuine B2B issues.  Having said that, I feel that the ebXML community
> itself must shoulder a significant part of the blame for this
knowledge
> gap.  I have said before that the state of the standards development
> work is not the limiting factor for ebXML - it is the (very poor)
level
> of awareness of ebXML in the marketplace.
> 
> Does anyone have any recent and positive references from Gartner that
I
> can use to do a little re-building of ebXML credibility here in
> Australia??
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Steve Capell
> RedWahoo
> Sydney, Australia
> +61 410 437854

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