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Subject: Re: vOTE CALL: RE: Counter Proposal Paper Draft 0.9
There is a way to do this (referring to below message). There are a lot of people following this thread who will eventually be voting on this issue (as the plenary). We have a vested interest in choosing the best technical solution. Accordingly, I would vote that the new document be considered. It has merits (speaking from an implementors POV). I vote "YES" Duane NIckull > > There has to be a way of resolving all this and picking the best technical > solution without getting personal or taking things personal. It would just > improve the atmosphere a bit and ease the tension, allowing everyone to > focus on the technical merits of the proposals without being distracted by > the slander. > > Thanks, > > Waqar Sadiq > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David RR Webber [mailto:Gnosis_@compuserve.com] > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 9:29 AM > To: Farrukh Najmi > Cc: 'ebxml repository ' > Subject: Re: vOTE CALL: RE: Counter Proposal Paper Draft 0.9 > > Message text written by Farrukh Najmi > >> I recommend a NO vote because: > > - Its not obvious to my how this proposal is better than the existing > > proposal (from a pros cons point of view). > > - the state of this document needs work > > - the estimated time to incorporate this document is great > > - the "dynamics" of this project team reminds me of a bunch of old mules > > that prevent us from agreeing on a quick path > > > > We'll have more time to talk later about this document, as I want more > > information such as the origin etc. I do see some interesting use > cases, > > but again, not enough time. > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > Halleluh - what a surprise - and my prediction hath come to pass. > > Privately I made the prediction on Monday that - once I had busted my chops > this week and hustled on all this - the final analysis from the Sun bastion > > would be - we have not had enough time, there is not enough time, there's > not been enough time spent on this. Frankly this is a tired and broken > record. > > Let's see now - 20 odd methods - 5 odd people, 4 a piece. If we focus in > on REALLY getting an abstraction layer API built here - it is possible. > > However - at the start of the week I had plenty of specific detail > 'Oh - you're inventing your own scripting process / query syntax", > now I've attempt to listen to that by allowing implementors to > specify that in a programming tool of their choice > 'Oh - its too vague, it does not give specifics'. > > Ok - well the bottom line for me is that OQL query statements is > something no DBA worth their salt would allow against a > backend server over an open channel. So what's it to be? > > I can add more specifics back in - but then I am I going to hear > shouts of 'foul' again? > > Someone else can run round the track, work up a sweat, be > pelted with rocks, and then told to run round the opposite > way this time. > > Thanks, DW.
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