RE: ebXML Source Code Toolkit

[Krishna Sankar <ksankar@cisco.com>]

Hi,

	IMHO, you both are right and wrong at the same time ;-)

	Let me explain :

	Sid, you cannot expect folks to give everything they develop for POC as
open source ! Many folks embed the ebXML into their products and cannot give
away their products !

	Michael, as a POC ethics, you cannot solicit or offer a commercial product
under NDA for POC. If everybody uses your product/tools, the POC will lose
the multiple interoperable INDEPENDENT implementations goal.

	Sid is right in the sense that free and open source should be shared with
everyone possibly under the open source license.

	And Michael's effort and initiative to offer artifacts is appreciated.

	I am putting together a POC FAQ (in between packing for my vacation ;-0)
and will send it to the list.

cheers


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Askary, Sid [mailto:saskary@netfish.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 7:13 PM
> To: 'Michael Joya'; ebxml-poc@lists.ebxml.org;
> ebxml-transport@lists.ebxml.org; ebxml-regrep@lists.ebxml.org;
> ebxml-architecture@lists.ebxml.org; ebxml-bp@lists.ebxml.org;
> ebxml-core@lists.ebxml.org
> Cc: 'ebxml-stc@lists.ebxml.org'
> Subject: RE: ebXML Source Code Toolkit
>
>
> Michael,
>
>      I appreciate your efforts in the POC working group.  However, this is
> not an acceptable mode of operation.
>
>      For one thing, I don't understand what you mean by "interested POC
> parties".  Everything we do in POC is in the open.  If you post to this
> organization's list, it should be for everyone.  If you have a
> group of your
> own choosing, please send email ONLY to those individuals.  I have been
> involved in managing this working group for a while and the most
> recent open
> source issue that I recall was YOU offering to help.
>
>      Secondly, the issue of offering tools and/or implementations has come
> up before and was just recently addressed in the steering committee
> yesterday (your CEO can verify, as he is a committee member).  Any source
> code that is offered openly within ebXML must follow an open source model.
> In light of you request for an "NDA", I would go a step further
> and say that
> this is solicitation for business and, therefore NOT ACCEPTABLE.
>
>      If you have free and/or open implementations that you wish to offer
> ebXML, please share it with EVERY ONE.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Sid Askary
> POC WG
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Joya [mailto:mike.joya@xmlglobal.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 3:06 PM
> To: ebxml-poc@lists.ebxml.org; ebxml-transport@lists.ebxml.org;
> ebxml-regrep@lists.ebxml.org; ebxml-architecture@lists.ebxml.org;
> ebxml-bp@lists.ebxml.org; ebxml-core@lists.ebxml.org
> Subject: ebXML Source Code Toolkit
>
>
>   Due to the large response I received from my post last week regarding
> my offer of source code, I thought I would repeat the offer in greater
> detail to some of the other groups.
>
>   XML Global has a source code toolkit available that implements ebXML
> message service functionality. Future releases of the toolkit are
> mandated to support other subcomponents of the architecture as
> specifications mature and stabilize.
>
> What is required:
>   JDK 1.3
>   A servlet or jsp container
>   The Solaris or Linux operating system
>
>   An early access release went out to interested POC parties this week,
> and I am in preparation of another release and further documentation to
> make usage more palatable. Interested parties can email me directly to
> obtain the NDA and subsequent access to the toolkit.
>
>
>
> --
> // Michael Joya
> // XML Global Research and Development
> // 1818 Cornwall Ave. Suite 9
> // Vancouver, Canada
> // 604-717-1100x230
>