RE: I think we should use the gci proposal for the poc effortintokyo.... why?

[Rik Drummond <rvd2@worldnet.att.net>]

Bob my concern is, since i do a lot of business doing interoperability
testing on technical specifications for associations, i know how much of a
miracle these poc things are to accomplish.... kudo's the poc team! i don't
know nick's feelings, and have not talked to him about the joint effort, but
i think the sooner we make a decision on what will be demonstrated the
easier it will be for nick and his team to bring of another big win for us.
the joint stuff may just add toooo much complexity.. i don't know... nick
what do you think?  best regards, rik

-----Original Message-----
From: sutor@us.ibm.com [mailto:sutor@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 9:34 AM
To: ebxml-stc@lists.ebxml.org
Subject: Re: I think we should use the gci proposal for the poc effort
intokyo.... why?


I want to qualify my earlier comments a bit. It's my understanding that we
will be able to have
two related demos that will highlight both the gci and the auto industry.
I'm fine for continuing
in that way if we have the capacity to pull it off.

Bob
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mblantz@LTVSteel.com on 09/27/2000 07:53:51 AM

To:   ebxml-stc@lists.ebxml.org
cc:
Subject:  Re: I think we should use the gci proposal for the poc effort in
      tokyo.... why?



Rik,

I also think that GCI has done an amazing piece of work, especially
considering
the very short time frame in which they achieved it.  I hesitate to add any
kind
of
negative comment.  However, as you could tell from the presentations that
Lisa
and I have given, we are working on more horizontal results rather than
vertical
industry ones.  Even at AIAG we try to divorce ourselves from what will
just
serve
automotive and concentrate on 'generic' business practices.   We will
continue
this effort at X12 and will expand it to other industry silos.  Including
retail, of
course, since we have so many business processes in common and since they
are already working on this same effort as a CC Domain Group.

MK





Rik Drummond <rvd2@worldnet.att.net> on 09/27/2000 12:12:20 AM

To:   Ebxml Transport <ebxml-transport@lists.ebxml.org>, Ebxml-Stc
      <ebxml-stc@lists.ebxml.org>
cc:    (bcc: Mary K Blantz/CLGO/LTV)
Subject:  I think we should use the gci proposal for the poc effort in
tokyo....
      why?



Five reasons:
     - They followed the spirit of our processes to accomplish their goals
     - They have been a better partner, as an organization, from visibility
        and public support than any other so far
     - their effort is CLEARLY not USA centric, is moving forward at a
        rapid pace
     - their proposal is the core set of messages, volume, used in their
        business sector
     - we should be able to demonstrate a solution to a clearly real world
        problem, get good press, make gci and ebxml look good.

i am concerned that the decision on what proposal to use has not been made
yet... i know coordinating with such a big group of vendors is very hard
and
time consuming, and i don't fault the poc team for my concern. i think that
the stc should give pos some support in making this decision. this may in
many ways be the key decision and win in the tokyo meeting for all of ebxml
teams and will have great impact on ebxml's acceptance.

i vote, today, now, this second, as a stc member to prototype the gci
proposal in tokyo.

do i hear any contra arguments to my points?

Best regards, rik

ps: quite frankly i could write some great articles on this and why it is
so
pivotal to world wide ec...