RE: Trading Partner/Party Discovery/Agreement Use Cases

["Burdett, David" <david.burdett@commerceone.com>]

OK folks

I have ideas on what changes will be required to the Message Service spec to
support both use cases, and plan to make a proposal to the group in, I
guess, around a week.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM [mailto:mwsachs@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:32 PM
To: Burdett, David
Cc: Burdett, David; 'EbXML Trading Partner (E-mail)'; 'ebXML Transport
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Subject: RE: Trading Partner/Party Discovery/Agreement Use Cases



David,

This looks very good.  Let's build it!

Regards,
Marty

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"Burdett, David" <david.burdett@commerceone.com> on 09/05/2000 06:36:48 PM

To:   "Burdett, David" <david.burdett@commerceone.com>, Martin W
      Sachs/Watson/IBM@IBMUS
cc:   "'EbXML Trading Partner (E-mail)'" <ebxml-tp@lists.ebxml.org>,
      "'ebXML Transport (E-mail)'" <ebxml-transport@lists.ebxml.org>
Subject:  RE: Trading Partner/Party Discovery/Agreement Use Cases



Forgot the attachments ...


-----Original Message-----
From: Burdett, David
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 3:35 PM
To: 'Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM'
Cc: EbXML Trading Partner (E-mail); ebXML Transport (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Trading Partner/Party Discovery/Agreement Use Cases


Marty

You make good points. An updated use case is attached which also includes
other example of what can happen in step 4.

For the benefit of others on this list. If we accept use case 2 in the
attached document, it means that:
1. There is a use case where there is no prior "Trading Partner Agreement".
Instead,
2. Information about one of the parties is sent in the same message as a
business document.

I'd appreciate others views on use case 2 and how to handle it.

David
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM [mailto:mwsachs@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 11:57 AM
To: David Burdett
Cc: EbXML Trading Partner (E-mail); ebXML Transport (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Trading Partner/Party Discovery/Agreement Use Cases


Sorry, I hit the wrong button.  Here is the full posting.


I finally caught up to the discovery use case description.  It looks very
good.  I am not speechless, however.

In use case 2:

   Step 3, last paragraph:  I think that some people would argue that Party
   A sending Party B a message containing the reference or pointer to Party
   B's information constitutes Party A's acceptance of Party B's terms and
   therefore agreement with Party B's terms.  To me, this is the same as
   clicking "accept" on Netscape's T's and C's panel when I download a new
   version.  In neither case, however is there any negotiation.  You might
   want to change "agreement" to "negotiation" in the last line of the
   paragraph.
>>>Agreed.<<<

   Step 4:  It might be interesting to add the following step 5:

     Step 5:  If party B did not find the Party A information acceptable in
     step 4, then perform use case 1.


Regards,
Marty





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Martin W. Sachs
IBM T. J. Watson Research Center
P. O. B. 704
Yorktown Hts, NY 10598
914-784-7287;  IBM tie line 863-7287
Notes address:  Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM
Internet address:  mwsachs @ us.ibm.com
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David Burdett <david.burdett@commerceone.com> on 08/22/2000 05:35:30 PM

To:   "EbXML Trading Partner (E-mail)" <ebxml-tp@lists.ebxml.org>, "ebXML
      Transport (E-mail)" <ebxml-transport@lists.ebxml.org>
cc:
Subject:  Trading Partner/Party Discovery/Agreement Use Cases



Folks

A couple of use cases for the TP group that I am also copying to the
Transport Group. Do folks these these use cases are reasonable?

David
 <<Party Discovery Use Cases 01.doc>>

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