Re: Is BP Specification Schema mandatory?

[Tim McGrath <tmcgrath@tedis.com.au>]

what you propose makes things clearer.  thanks

we shall discuss this at our call tomorrow and then get back to the BP Spec Schema team.


christopher ferris wrote:

> Tim,
>
> Please forward to ebxml-coord as I'm not subscribed.
>
> There is no restriction per se. A ProcessSpecification can point to
> anything at all. It can even "point to" nothing at all as would
> be the case where a URI/URN is used to identify an abstraction
> that two or more Parties understand through some means other
> than via a UML, XML or other document.
>
> Our specification has only dealt explicitly with the use
> case in which the document referenced by the xlink:href attribute
> of the ProcessSpecification element is an ebXML BPSS instance
> document that describes a specific business process.
>
> Are you asking us to explicitly state/specify how the CPP/CPA
> might be used with a busines process specification that is NOT
> conformant
> with the BPSS?
>
> Would the following be more acceptable:
>
> line 554
> "The ProcessSpecification element provides the reference to a process
> specification
> that defines the interactions between the two Parties.  It is
> RECOMMENDED that this reference be a document that is prepared in accord
> with the ebXML
> Business Process Specification Schema specification[BPMSPEC]. However,
> it MAY reference
> anything that the two Parties mutually recognize and understand. This
> specification only concerns itself with a formal description of the
> use case that the document referenced is prepared in accord with the
> ebXML Business Process Specification Schema specification[BPMSPEC]."
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
> Tim McGrath wrote:
> >
> > an issue has arisen in the Quality Reveiw of the Business Porcess Specification Schema.
> > Their document states:
> >
> > "The CPA/CPP Specification requires that parties agree upon a Collaboration Protocol
> > Agreement (CPA) in order to transact business. A CPA associates itself with a specific
> > Binary Collaboration. Thus, all Business Transactions performed between two parties must
> > be referenced through Business Transaction Activities contained within a Binary
> > Collaboration. " (Business Process Specification Schema v0.99, lines 734-739)
> >
> > we queried this condition with the BP team and now accept that this is in line with the
> > current CPP/CPA spec, that states:
> >
> > line 496 "The CollaborationRole element SHALL consist of the following child elements: a
> > REQUIRED ProcessSpecification element, ..."
> >
> > and subsequently...
> >
> > line 554 "The ProcessSpecification element provides the link to the Process-Specification
> > document that defines the interactions between the two Parties.  This document is
> > prepared in accord with the ebXML Business Process Specification Schema
> > specification[BPMSPEC]."
> >
> > our concern is that this would prevent organisations not using business process models
> > (in ebXML BPSS form) from using ebXML CPAs.  we cannot see why this restriction is
> > necessary.
> >
> > can you clarify the intention?
> >
> > --
> > regards
> > tim mcgrath
> > TEDIS   fremantle  western australia 6160
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> >
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tim mcgrath
TEDIS   fremantle  western australia 6160
phone: +618 93352228  fax: +618 93352142