RE: Vienna agenda

[Martin W Sachs <mwsachs@us.ibm.com>]

Ravi,

As I mentioned to Saito-san, if time permits later in the week, we can
discuss presentation materials.  There is a long agenda of technical items.

I, however, have found that building a presentation is a very personal
thing, so I am not convinced of the value of an "official" set of slides.
Anyone who wants to use my slides as a basis is welcome.

I will put your other topics on the agenda list.  However bear in mind the
following:

   There is NO dependency on the ebXML Registry (or any other registry) in
   the CPP-CPA specification.  All references to the Registry are
   non-normative (using the word MAY, for example).  Two partners can
   exchange CPPs by email and manually build a CPA if they want. There IS a
   dependency on a registry if one wants to DISCOVER potential partners.
   That is a registry specification issue, however, not a CPP-CPA issue.
   The CPP is a document in a registry to be found by potential business
   partners.

   There is not a tight dependency on the ebXML Business Process
   Specification Schema.  In response to a QR comment, we have clarified
   the words in the specification to make it clear that alternative
   descriptions of the Business Collaboration can be used.  To do this the
   Parties have to agree on an appropriate interpretation of the elements
   and attributes that refer to the Business Collaboration description.
   There is more work to be done in this area but it has to be viewed as
   post-Vienna.

Regards,
Marty

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Ravi Kacker <rkacker@exceloncorp.com> on 05/02/2001 11:21:57 AM

Please respond to rkacker@exceloncorp.com

To:   Yukinori Saito <y-saito@ecom.or.jp>, Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM@IBMUS
cc:   TP-Team <ebxml-tp@lists.ebxml.org>, "EDIgr)H.Sugamata"
      <sugamata@ecom.or.jp>, "EDIgr)K.Mizoguchi" <mizoguchi@ecom.or.jp>
Subject:  RE: Vienna agenda



Martin,
   I believe Saito San makes a very valid point. It will be nice to
concentrate on some Presentation ( Powerpoint etc) material that briefly
describes the overview of CPP/CPA Specs.. What are the functionalities and
features it accomplishes to establish business relationship... explain each
critical element of the spec with examples ... and finally a description of
a SIMPLE CPA and SIMPLE CPP template wiuth required and optional elements.
   This material can be used in several forums to facilitate explanation of
the value proposition of the CPS ?CPP specifications and how they have to
build to achieve e-business relationship.

   On a separtate topic, at OAG Meeting in Paris while reviewing the
CPP/CPA Spec it appeared to the audience there that there is a tight
relatioship between CPP/CPA Spec to Business Procees Spec and Messaging
Service Spec spec, Registry Repository Spec.
   In absence of these dependency information details not resident in any
Registry/Repository YET how can the CPP/CPA Spec be used in isolation? A
discussion on this issue is relevant as well as a How To guide be useful.

   Looking forward to our meeting in Vienna.
Thanks.
Ravi Kacker,
Vice President, Industry Relations and Strategy,
eXcelon Corporation,
25 Mall Road,
Burlington,MA 01803
Tel:781-402-7203
Mobile: 847-858-7720
rkacker@exceloncorp.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yukinori Saito [mailto:y-saito@ecom.or.jp]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 9:02 PM
> To: Martin W Sachs
> Cc: TP-Team; EDIgr)H.Sugamata; EDIgr)K.Mizoguchi
> Subject: Re: Vienna agenda
>
>
> Marty,
>
> How about presentation materials to explain cpp/cpa for one of agenda in
> Vienna.
> In Japan, we (ECOM) have a plan to explain the ebXML specifications for
> Industry key members to study and introduce ebXML systems. .
> I have to make some presentation materials of cpp/cpa in Japanese.
> I think two presentation materials by Marty Sachs (DISA), and
> John Ibbotson
> (XML-ONE) are very helpful to understand cpp/cpa.
> I also think if someone make the following materials, they will be very
> helpful.
> (1) List of general functions of element and attribute of Tags
> (2) Explanation of examples of cpp and cpa
>    The key points are followings.
>    -Structure of examples   for example:the link of elements
>    -Role of sentences composed of elements and attributes in cpp/cpa
> examples
>
> Best Regards,
> Yukinori Saito
> --------------------------------------------------
> Yukinori Saito
> Electronic Commerce Promotion Council of Japan(ECOM)
> E-mail:y-saito@ecom.or.jp
> TEL:+81-3-5500-3642   FAX:+81-3-5500-3660
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Martin W Sachs <mwsachs@us.ibm.com>
> To: <ebxml-tp@lists.ebxml.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 4:20 AM
> Subject: Vienna agenda
>
>
> > I am starting to put together an agenda for the TP team in Vienna.  It
> > would be helpful for planning purposes if you could post any agenda
> > suggestions to this list before the close of business on the US
> East Coast
> > Thursday.
> >
> > The above is especially important for anyone outside the TP
> team who would
> > like to discuss a topic with the team.  That way, I will know
> to look for
> > you on Monday to arrange a time.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Marty
> >
> >
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> > Martin W. Sachs
> > IBM T. J. Watson Research Center
> > P. O. B. 704
> > Yorktown Hts, NY 10598
> > 914-784-7287;  IBM tie line 863-7287
> > Notes address:  Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM
> > Internet address:  mwsachs @ us.ibm.com
> >
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