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Subject: RE: RM Group Definitions

Application level specifying a "grouping" might be business requirement as
an application might not want to send out a message until it **knows** that
an earlier message has been delivered. In this case, the application /
business process would have to let the messaging service know when to end a


-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Ferris [mailto:chris.ferris@east.sun.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 6:43 AM
To: richard drummond
Cc: ebxml-transport@lists.ebxml.org
Subject: Re: RM Group Definitions

I agree. It isn't clear to me where the notion of BP-level
or application-level grouping came from as I haven't had
an opportunity to read ALL of the messages sent during my
vacation, but this seems to me to be something we should 
steer well clear of.


richard drummond wrote:
> i don't see grouping messages as being a key point of a reliable messaging
> spec. yes it is important for performance... but not for reliable
> that is why i think we should forgo it on this round and concentrate on
> rm part of things.... best regards, rik
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Hughes [mailto:jfh@fs.fujitsu.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 3:41 AM
> To: ebxml-transport@lists.ebxml.org
> Subject: RE: RM Group Definitions
> Then we need to come to a quick resolution on this point in the group. If
> message grouping (by this I mean sending only one MSH-level ACK for a
> of reliable messages) is not allowed, then it greatly simplifies the RM
> spec... I suggest we carefully consider this before taking the decision
> this level of simplicity may yield an unacceptable solution.
> Jim
> At 03:47 PM 8/28/2000 -0500, richard drummond wrote:
> >i don't think grouping is appropriate at this time. we need to keep it
> >simple for the first round of ebxml... that is that though the end of may
> >next year..... rik

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