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Subject: Re: Tokyo document for review
James Whittle asked that comments on the Core Component documents be received no later than Monday 27th November. See especially the ebXML Definition of Core Component Context Categorizations, Classifications, and Values (1_CONTEXTDEF_ebxml_2000-11-10v3.doc). Thanks to the Core Components Working Group for sharing the papers. I think I vaguely understand how contexts are used to modify core component behavior, and have skimmed over the parts describing how rules based on these contexts would be activated. Though hard pressed to imagine how all this would be done with schemas, repositories and rule engines, I'll assume that you all are well on your way to solving these problems. But I have to ask: wherever are you going with 7.3 Regional Context? By the appearance of the asterisk, it seems to be a preferred context category recommended by the ebXML ccWG. There are any number of uses for the ISO 3166 country code, but trying to anticipate how an application (or pair of trading partners) intend to use it may be a futile proposition. Looking at the appendix in 8.1 Regional Classifications, I appreciate the yeoman effort that went into geographically classifying every political unit, especially since, like the typical American high-schooler or President-presumptive George W. Bush, I wouldn't be able to place any more than 10% of the countries on a globe. But I can't see any relevance to e-business by this rather arbitrary classification - and if it's of no use in business, why would we bother to carry this information around in a repository or use it to drive "context"? And now you have me started: why the mixture of organizational classifications with geographical? "North America Free Trade Association" seems out of place in this scheme which is describing the objects by physical location. Classification as a NAFTA country might certainly be of value in e-business application, but it certainly is not a geographical category. And I don't even know where the US MINOR OUTLYING ISLANDS? are (and apparently, neither does the author given the big question mark), but I would lay odds that these islands are war-booty somewhere in the Pacific, and probably have no manufacturing base that makes NAFTA classification relevant. And why would PR - PUERTO RICO, a wholly owned subsidiary of the U.S., be classified in the Caribbean, then, when for all commerce purposes (customs, taxes, postage, currency, banking), it is practically the same as doing business domestically within the United States? And is TR - TURKEY really Middle Eastern? - A difficult judgment call since it straddles Europe and Asia. Why should Europe and Asia *even* be classified as separate continents? Unless you were trying to forcibly lump together a bunch of Muslim countries with Israel just to cause trouble, and though that may or may not be of any relevance to commerce, why is there a "Middle East" category at all? And what's with the "Eastern Europe" ghetto? That's not a geographical location - it's an occupied nation mindset, where Poland, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Croatia, Slovenia, Hungary, the Czech Republic and Slovakia certainly don't belong - they're overwhelmingly Roman Catholic culturally if not in fact (with a smattering of misc. Protestants), and use the Latin alphabet - as sure a definition of "Western" as there's ever been. Further, it's interesting to note that all countries physically on the continent of Africa have been categorized as one undifferentiated mass, perpetuating the stereotype of the "Dark" continent, as if we can't be bothered to tell any of those people apart. It's a miracle that the ISO has even managed to name and code these entities. Trying to further classify "countries" like this is a Herculean effort, sure to result in inaccuracy and insult. So why even bother? I'm not even talking political correctness here: it's of no value in e-commerce. It's a waste of time. And it doesn't even serve as a useful pedagogical example. The core ISO 3166 list, without classification, should be suitable for context setting; additional lists could be made from subsets of ISO 3166 which identify useful agglomerations such as lists of NAFTA countries, EU countries, or NATO countries, etc. etc. William J. Kammerer FORESIGHT Corp. 4950 Blazer Memorial Pkwy. Dublin, OH USA 43017-3305 +1 614 791-1600 Visit FORESIGHT Corp. at http://www.foresightcorp.com/ "Commerce for a New World"
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