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Subject: RE: Tag Languages, UID's etc. - My experiment with the Beacon BDR

I hope it is not going on tangent, but I support this point (of re-using
terminology) whole heartedly.


Devendra Tripathi
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David RR Webber [mailto:Gnosis_@compuserve.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 9:21 AM
> To: INTERNET:stuart.campbell@tieglobal.com
> Cc: 'ebXML Core'
> Subject: RE: Tag Languages, UID's etc. - My experiment with the Beacon
> Message text written by INTERNET:stuart.campbell@tieglobal.com
> >
> 'dont tell me about all this complex architecture and techy details, what
> my
> community wants to know is "what do i call my elements and in what case"'
> The user community is looking for guidance.  Some will follow.  Some wont.
> But at least there is guidance for the things they want.
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> Stuart, great point - and I also have found this out first hand with the
> CatXML.org work that I have done.
> We approached this by saying - this is an open approach, and
> immediately the users said - tell us what tags we should use? Which
> is counter-intuitive - what they are really saying is 'design us a
> default that works'.
> But where did I go to find those tags?   I did not go to a BDR or a BSR
> or some techie spec'.  I went to existing industry catalogue work and
> found vocabularies there already and re-used those.
> This is the whole key - no need to invent yet another set of terms.
> Each industry group already has these close by - and yes the
> industry group itself should take the lead in building the tag-sets.
> Microsoft - since you mention them - are also masters at this
> technique - working with industry groups to establish a standard,
> getting them to use DCD, VB, and create DBO's thereby
> locking in the Microsoft speak to the whole process.  But this does
> NOT extend down to the tag level - key thing to notice.
> My sense is we create two or three reference implementations such
> as CatXML.org - where people can freely access all the documentation
> and materials.   Plagurism then does the rest.  Easy to use Word,
> Ctrl-F / Replace All / Change 'CatXML' to 'FooBarXML'  / - Save As !
> Flexibility should be the approach here - not attempting to decree for
> all industry situations just one inflexible approach.
> DW.

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