RE: Party XML Schema Defintions

[Stefano POGLIANI <stefano.pogliani@sun.com>]

Bob,

	I agree with these comments. On the last sentence :
> 
> My general question here is:  what are the conditions that
> will make it beneficial for SMEs to adopt ebXML?  And in
> those conditions, what are the likely business process and
> software requirements?
> 

I would say that these conditions are (not exhaustively):
	- ease of understanding
	- cost effective
	- not forcing new, complex IT procedures
	- easy, graphical, cheap tools driving all the way through

In that sense, I think that the presence of the CPA is really
fundamental.

/stefano

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Haugen [mailto:linkage@interaccess.com]
> Sent: 06 February 2001 13:44
> To: 'Martin Bryan'; Stefano POGLIANI
> Cc: ebxml-core@lists.ebxml.org
> Subject: RE: Party XML Schema Defintions
> 
> 
> Martin Bryan:
> >If an SML already has a small application using Access why the hell
> >should he be forced to create ebXML BP, BOV, FSV, CPP, TPa, UTCAA,....
> >formal definitions of his processes.
> [...]
> >Most SMEs have very trivial BPs. Most of them do not even have formal
> >procedures but work on an ad-hoc basis. My point is that if we want to
> >attract more than a few percent of the larger SMEs we have to be able to
> >work using extremely simple, probably manually controlled, 
> procedures that
> >do not need more than a few seconds to set up.
> 
> I wonder what situations you are thinking of here.  SME <-> SME?
> SME <-> larger company?  SME <-> Web service?  Something else?
> What kinds of documents and processes?
> 
> If SME <-> larger company, the larger company likely has formal
> procedures that they want the SMEs to follow. The larger company
> could package up the procedures and supporting software so that
> the SME could either download it or use it online as a Web service.
> In such cases, ebXML with packaged procedures may allow SMEs
> to participate in larger supply chains more effectively, as opposed
> to being the "weak links".
> 
> If SME <-> SME, if it is worth doing ebXML collaborations,
> they may want at least request-response business transactions,
> that is, a minimal BP which can be run manually but will
> require some supporting software that will not be included
> in their existing applications (until ebXML support gets
> baked into e.g. QuickBooks).
> 
> If they can't do request-response transactions, the customer
> will not know if their order was accepted unless they call 
> each other on the phone or email. I suppose they could just 
> email ebXML documents, if there was some payback for ebXML 
> at all.
> 
> My general question here is:  what are the conditions that
> will make it beneficial for SMEs to adopt ebXML?  And in
> those conditions, what are the likely business process and
> software requirements?
> 
> Regards,
> Bob Haugen
> 
>