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Subject: Re: identification / classification

Hi all,

        I've been an observer of this mailing list of ebXML, but now the
topic covers the area of my speciality. So I'm taking this chance to give
some info ...

        As a classification scheme of industrial product, you have ISO13584
Parts Library(PLIB in short) standard in particular Part42, in which BSU
 basic semantic unit) is used to identify a product from an engineering
point of view.
In fact the part 42 has a mirror of an IEC standard; IEC61360 Part2. Also,
IEC61360-4 is the dictionary( standard classficiation) on electric and
electronic components, based on this Part.
The difference with other identification framework is that it has a notion
that a product class is defined by a set of properties. So properties as
well as classes have IDs named BSU.

Principal BSUs are class_BSU, property_BSU, and Supplier_BSU.
Supplier_BSU is an identification of information supplier. With this, you
can know who defines the
class_BSU, property_BSU, and all other BSUs. The identity of the
supplier_BSU is guaranteed
by ISO6523 International Code Designator(ICD). The first 4 digits of the ICD
identify the organizations that make standards and classifications. ISO,
IEC, NIST, and all major standard making organizations including some
corporations, are given respective numbers. These organizations may further
issue respective id's. DUNS number too is now on the list of ICD, though I
haven't checked UNSPSC yet.

Most of the Parts of PLIB standard reached already an IS stage. The standard
is being discussed at ISO-TC184/SC4/WG2 where  you find companion standards
like "STEP"  in the next room of the Subcommittee, i.e. WG3.
Many dictionaries or classifications which includes RosettaNet,
have direct or indirect relation with this standard.
Useful information can be found at

Japanese Electric Measuring Instruments Manufacturers' Association (JEMIMA)
started to make an International standard based on PLIB, too. You can find
some other organizations making a similar effort.

ISO TC184/SC4/WG2 is planning to host a joint meeting in San Francisco in
June, inviting in fact,  ebXML and other private consortiums like
RosettaNet, OBI, xCBL and others, to find a way of collaboration with
commercial transactions standard. PLIB is to select an industrial product at
a point in time, ebXML may be to sell and procure it in a sequence of time ,
in brief.

I hope this is of some help to you.

email: macherie@yk.rim.or.jp
TEL/FAX +81 45 934 3892
Research Scientist at
Human Interface Lab.
Toshiba Corporate R&D Center
Adr:1 Toshiba Komukai-Cho, Saiwai-Ku,
Kawasaki, 212-8582, Japan
TEL  +81 44 549 2397
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----- Original Message -----
From: "William J. Kammerer" <wkammerer@foresightcorp.com>
To: "ebXML Core" <ebxml-core@lists.ebxml.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: identification / classification

> Jay L. Ayres says he's "heard there are several other identification
> codes used besides Harmonized Codes when addressing products / services
> or industry classifications within the ebXML arena."   He asks "How many
> and by what name are the other product / service and industry
> classification codes."
> Hopefully, there will be all sorts of codes used within the ebXML arena,
> because codes are the mortar that holds the bricks of e-commerce
> together.  Although it's sometimes disheartening to see our ebXML
> examples with stuff spelled out incorrectly in English - as if a machine
> is going to be able to magically process it.
> Besides the Harmonized Tariff codes, you can find other taxonomies
> listed at the OASIS XML Cover Page for Resource Description and
> Classification, at http://www.oasis-open.org/cover/classification.html.
> For example, just for starters, there's the UNSPSC - United Nations
> Standard Product and Services Classification, the North American
> Industry Classification System (NAICS), and the Standard Industrial
> Classifications (SIC) code.
> But apparently there's a turf war going on over the UNSPSC. I didn't
> think anything of it when I got an e-mail from RosettaNet last month
> about some change in the code management organization for the UN/SPSC.
> At http://www.rosettanet.org/, under Standards -  Product & Partner
> Codes, they have an entry re: the UN/SPSC - United Nations/Standard
> Product and Services Code:
>    Important Note: As of Feb. 24, 2001, the United Nations
>    Development Programme (UNDP), owner of the UN/SPSC, will
>    no longer be using the Electronic Commerce Code Management
>    Association (ECCMA) to manage, maintain or update the
>    UN/SPSC. During this transition, no revisions or updates
>    to the UN/SPSC will be made.
> What's going on?  So I head over to the ECCMA and check out the FAQ on
> the UN/SPSC at http://eccma.org/unspsc/faq.html. There seems to be a
> subtle difference between the "UNSPSC" and the "UN/SPSC" - something
> funny is going on here.  It's like when we had two or three popes all at
> once.  Now there's two UN/SPSC (or UNSPSC) - one stands for United
> Nations and the other for "Universal" - at http://www.un-spsc.net and
> http://www.unspsc.org.
> William J. Kammerer
> 4950 Blazer Pkwy.
> Dublin, OH USA 43017-3305
> +1 614 791-1600
> Visit FORESIGHT Corp. at http://www.foresightcorp.com/
> "accelerating time-to-trade"

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