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Subject: RE: [ebxml-dev] WS-I


Teho,
Interesting you mention ebXML ...

At a recent Web Services Conference (San Francisco 2 weeks ago) where Microsoft, SUN, IBM, lots of other software company's, and a significant body of the venture capital community came together - it was clearly identified that Web Services today is still a first generation 'technology release' and
the real business value proposition of Web Services is yet to be identified although it's probably going to be the business community itself that will unlock the service value of future Web Services. (If anything, Iona was also clearly a front runner in the Web Services technology space.)

To that effect, the ebXML (eBTWG) Business Process teams have identified the "how to .." capability to put a company's "business objectives" onto technology, **including** new web services BUT using conventional business concepts used by business today !!

Here's a link http://homepage.interaccess.com/~linkage/COOL.ppt to a Powerpoint presentation that show's how company's in the future can put their business (process) commitments (objectives) back into the "technology" to drive the benefits from technology in managing the business; and this is the
type of 'stuff' that's forming the new global ebXML standards.
(I have more info on this if you're interested) 

All the best
-Dave Welsh




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lee, Teho [mailto:tlee@iona.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 1:42 PM
> To: mike@rawlinsecconsulting.com; ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org
> Subject: RE: [ebxml-dev] WS-I
> 
> 
> Microsoft .NET combined with its Global XML Web 
> Services(WS-Inspection,
> WS-License, WS-Routing...) is pushing the recently heating-up baseline
> web services(SOAP,UDDI,WSDL) to its ultimate use. This is an entirely
> new set of standards so no surprise its interoperability needs to be
> well coordinated between players like any other standard does. This is
> why WS-I. (see the following URL). 
> 
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-
> us/dnsvcin
> ter/html/ws-ijump.asp
> 
> IMO, ebXML has every bit of web services' ingredient, and in some
> aspects even more (like there's no WS-Reliable Messaging yet...). It's
> just that web services has been gathering soooo much steam in the past
> few months because of its transparency and ease of use. The future, a
> big success/demise of web services itself or convergence of business
> standards(RosettaNet, ebXML...) and web services... I'll leave it for
> your own judgment.
> 
> Teho Lee
> 
> IONA
> END 2 ANYWHERE
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Rawlins [mailto:mike@rawlinsecconsulting.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 1:11 PM
> To: ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org
> Subject: Re: [ebxml-dev] WS-I
> 
> 
> Seems to me their focus is on adopting existing specifications rather
> than
> developing them.  Other than that, they read very much like 
> "yet another
> Internet based technology consortium", as if we don't have enough of
> them
> already...
> 
> 
> Sharad Agarwal wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > I recently saw a news item on WS-I and then visited the site
> > (http://www.ws-i.org) to notice that another new standard initiative
> for
> > e-business interoperability has started.
> >
> > Can someone help me understand where does this imitative stand
> vis--vis
> > ebXML or what different problems is it trying to address than the
> problems
> > ebXML tried to solve ? Or it is absolutely different thing 
> and can not
> be
> > compared with ebXML at all ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Sharad
> >
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