RE: [ebxml-dev] WS-I

[Scott Nieman <scott.nieman@synchrocon.com>]

The proliferation of Web Services without:

1) standard models to drive standard definitions their signature, and
2) a standard business process level integration mechanism to choreograph
their invocations,
is just more point to point integrations which are too costly for anyone to
support.

Just because a program can parse as WSDL document and determine the
signature of a web service, does not mean it can understand the signature or
is interoperable with its signature.  

Scott Nieman
Practice Director - Integration
Venturi Technology Partners
952.352.5889

-----Original Message-----
From: Lee, Teho
To: mike@rawlinsecconsulting.com; ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org
Sent: 2/11/2002 1:41 PM
Subject: RE: [ebxml-dev] WS-I

Microsoft .NET combined with its Global XML Web Services(WS-Inspection,
WS-License, WS-Routing...) is pushing the recently heating-up baseline
web services(SOAP,UDDI,WSDL) to its ultimate use. This is an entirely
new set of standards so no surprise its interoperability needs to be
well coordinated between players like any other standard does. This is
why WS-I. (see the following URL). 

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnsvcin
ter/html/ws-ijump.asp

IMO, ebXML has every bit of web services' ingredient, and in some
aspects even more (like there's no WS-Reliable Messaging yet...). It's
just that web services has been gathering soooo much steam in the past
few months because of its transparency and ease of use. The future, a
big success/demise of web services itself or convergence of business
standards(RosettaNet, ebXML...) and web services... I'll leave it for
your own judgment.

Teho Lee

IONA
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Rawlins [mailto:mike@rawlinsecconsulting.com]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 1:11 PM
To: ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org
Subject: Re: [ebxml-dev] WS-I


Seems to me their focus is on adopting existing specifications rather
than
developing them.  Other than that, they read very much like "yet another
Internet based technology consortium", as if we don't have enough of
them
already...


Sharad Agarwal wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I recently saw a news item on WS-I and then visited the site
> (http://www.ws-i.org) to notice that another new standard initiative
for
> e-business interoperability has started.
>
> Can someone help me understand where does this imitative stand
vis-à-vis
> ebXML or what different problems is it trying to address than the
problems
> ebXML tried to solve ? Or it is absolutely different thing and can not
be
> compared with ebXML at all ?
>
> Thanks,
> Sharad
>
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