RE: AW: [ebxml-dev] RE: [EDI-L] Article on ebXML Core Components ...

[Zachary Alexander <zack2@cris.com>]

Todd,

>In fact, I sincerely doubt whether ebXML or any other exchange of business
transactions
will get beyond the stage of purchase order, until the SME has better
security.   Windows or Linux will not be secure enough for users to operate
as a bastion host on the internet, for many years, if ever. They are not
even secure enough for money transactions when
hidden behind firewalls.<

How does this differ from a fax machine? Companies send and receive business
documents all the time with fax machines with absolutely no security.
Lawyers send M&A documents with fax machines and few things could be as
costly as buying and selling a company.  Companies also don't turn off their
fax machines when they go home at night. Anecdote: McAFee just announced an
appliance that will proxy email and search for viruses.  This same
functionality could be built into an ebXML appliance.

zack



-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Boyle [mailto:tboyle@rosehill.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:35 PM
To: David Lyon
Cc: ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org; mblock@blocktax.com; doug@sleeter.com
Subject: Re: AW: [ebxml-dev] RE: [EDI-L] Article on ebXML Core
Components ...


At 06:20 PM 4/23/02, David Lyon wrote:
>Todd,
>
>It isn't as simple as you might think and I don't believe that there is a
>conspiracy as you would have us believe.

I did not suggest any conspiracy.  Here, review the definition:
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/cmd_search.asp?dict=B&searchword=conspiracy

The design of the software market and IP law, makes the game
deterministic.  It has nothing to do with conspiracy: any player who
plays a sub-optimal game just shrinks into obscurity.  No problem.
No conspiracy.

The most relevant question is whether the dynamics of lock-in,
or the overwhelming advantage of concentration, or the effectiveness
of churn in maintaining concentration, have somehow been repealed by the
internet, or by web services, ebXML, or P2P anything else.   Those are
the important questions.

If you want to debate my cynical conclusions about the accounting
software market, we probably should move it to alt.accounting or
alt.comp.software.financial.quickbooks.  :-)

>One point that I would like to make is that with SBCs (Single board
>computers) it is quite feasible to put an accounting system on one of
those.

Of course,  I fully agree, and hope it happens.  In fact, I sincerely
doubt whether ebXML or any other exchange of business transactions
will get beyond the stage of purchase order, until the SME has better
security.   Windows or Linux will not be secure enough for users
to operate as a bastion host on the internet, for many years, if ever.
They are not even secure enough for money transactions when
hidden behind firewalls.

Secure devices are the more likely possibility, IMO., at least,
for signing.   When you go to Taiwan take me with you.  I want
them to build this: http://www.gldialtone.com/hippocrit.gif

TOdd



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