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Interesting. However, it says nothing about receiving POs from customers, which QB still doesn't do. No customer/internal cross references for part number or customer ship to locations. Bottom line, still extremely lacking for any realistic eBusiness. Mike, a QuickBooks 2002 user Sunil wrote: >Hey guys, > >Look at the Gateway for QuickBooks provided by eByz at www.ebyz.com . they >have a free evaluation copy. Though this gateway in no way makes use of >ebxml..it uses standards such as SOAP and UDDI. > >Have a look > >Sunil > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rachel Foerster" <rachelf@ix.netcom.com> >To: "'Todd Boyle'" <tboyle@rosehill.net>; "'Frank. Christopher'" ><C.Frank@seeburger.de>; "'Christopher Harvey'" ><ckharvey@zaratechnology.com.sg>; <mike@rawlinsecconsulting.com> >Cc: <ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org> >Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:17 PM >Subject: RE: AW: [ebxml-dev] RE: [EDI-L] Article on ebXML Core Components >... > > >>Todd, >> >>Way to go. But, and this is my beef....if QuickBooks enjoys 80% market >>share, and I believe it does, then why on earth can't one user of >> >QuickBooks > >>interoperate with another user of QuickBooks for the electronic exchange >> >of > >>purchase orders and invoices. Gads, this should be a walk in the part for >>the developers at Intuit! And furthermore, Quicken and QuickBooks should >>interoperate as well!!! Child's play!!!! >> >>And consider that QuickBooks now does quotes, plus perhaps a couple of >> >other > >>documents, if Intuit when the route of creating interoperability between >> >its > >>own products, and using XML/ebXML, Gadzooks!!!! What an idea!!! In Intuit >>when this way they'd get 100% market share.... >> >>Rachel >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Todd Boyle [mailto:tboyle@rosehill.net] >>Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 11:26 AM >>To: Frank. Christopher; Christopher Harvey; mike@rawlinsecconsulting.com >>Cc: ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org >>Subject: Re: AW: [ebxml-dev] RE: [EDI-L] Article on ebXML Core >>Components ... >> >> >>At 01:02 AM 4/23/02, Frank. Christopher wrote: >> >>>Onk! >>> >>>Following this discussion I (again) get the impression that a huge count >>>of people is waiting for the 1001st definition of a invoice and the >>>5096th definition of a purchase order. >>> >>>Again (I expect) we will face the reality that even SME will require >>>branch specific information in their documents and will "interpret" this >>>or that so or different, will use price including tax and the addition >>>of tax and net price will not match the total price and so on. >>> >>In the U.S., Quickbooks has something like 80% market share. >> >>How do you explain the fact that such an overwhelming percentage >>of small businesses are able to run their company with a total >>vocabulary of something like 200 data elements, and a single page >>invoice and order? >> >>Frank with all due respect, SMEs will *not* have this problem you >>describe, interpreting documents. You are neglecting the facts that >>in SMEs there is extreme compression of the roles, and that all >>of their buying and selling is conducted manually, by people who >>will be dead if they're not alert. They already conducted the sale >>or purchase personally and they don't sit and maintain diaries >>of every detail in their computer, now or ever. >> >>It will be a permanent feature of SMEs, that most sales or purchases >>are conducted by ONE person and that they neither need, nor >>desire, detailed documentation, detailed contracts, or step- >>by-step business process software. They just need a way to >>make their bookkeeping automatic for cash, inventory, payables, >>and receivables. >> >>If large Enterprises have a problem processing a standard PO >>or invoice with SMEs that's tough luck because SMEs are not >>going to start doing extra keypunching just to make things >>more convenient for the Enterprises. >> >>I will concede, if the vision of the UMM, CPPA, RegRep and >>BCPMC were realized in a piece of software, and it were handed >>to SMEs for free, and it was capable of running alongside the >>existing accounting system, they might install it. The very >>first thing they would do is configure it to be limited to their >>own context (the SME context of 200 words vocabulary), and >>limit the documents support to orders and invoices capable >>of being understood by Quickbooks. This is rather like >>giving Maserati race cars, capable of 300KPH to every >>suburban family in order to speed up the traffic on the >>streets where speed limits are never more than 100Kph, >>since they won't buy it themselves... >> >>Todd >> >> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------- >>The ebxml-dev list is sponsored by OASIS. >>To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription >>manager: <http://lists.ebxml.org/ob/adm.pl> >> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------- >>The ebxml-dev list is sponsored by OASIS. >>To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription >>manager: <http://lists.ebxml.org/ob/adm.pl> >> > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >The ebxml-dev list is sponsored by OASIS. >To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription >manager: <http://lists.ebxml.org/ob/adm.pl> > > -- Michael C. Rawlins, Rawlins EC Consulting www.rawlinsecconsulting.com
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