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Subject: Re: AW: [ebxml-dev] RE: [EDI-L] Article on ebXML Core Components ...

Hey guys,

Look at the Gateway for QuickBooks provided by eByz at www.ebyz.com . they
have a free evaluation copy. Though this gateway in no way makes use of
ebxml..it uses standards such as SOAP and UDDI.

Have a look


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rachel Foerster" <rachelf@ix.netcom.com>
To: "'Todd Boyle'" <tboyle@rosehill.net>; "'Frank. Christopher'"
<C.Frank@seeburger.de>; "'Christopher Harvey'"
<ckharvey@zaratechnology.com.sg>; <mike@rawlinsecconsulting.com>
Cc: <ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:17 PM
Subject: RE: AW: [ebxml-dev] RE: [EDI-L] Article on ebXML Core Components

> Todd,
> Way to go. But, and this is my beef....if QuickBooks enjoys 80% market
> share, and I believe it does, then why on earth can't one user of
> interoperate with another user of QuickBooks for the electronic exchange
> purchase orders and invoices. Gads, this should be a walk in the part for
> the developers at Intuit! And furthermore, Quicken and QuickBooks should
> interoperate as well!!! Child's play!!!!
> And consider that QuickBooks now does quotes, plus perhaps a couple of
> documents, if Intuit when the route of creating interoperability between
> own products, and using XML/ebXML, Gadzooks!!!! What an idea!!! In Intuit
> when this way they'd get 100% market share....
> Rachel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Boyle [mailto:tboyle@rosehill.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 11:26 AM
> To: Frank. Christopher; Christopher Harvey; mike@rawlinsecconsulting.com
> Cc: ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org
> Subject: Re: AW: [ebxml-dev] RE: [EDI-L] Article on ebXML Core
> Components ...
> At 01:02 AM 4/23/02, Frank. Christopher wrote:
> >Onk!
> >
> >Following this discussion I (again) get the impression that a huge count
> >of people is waiting for the 1001st definition of a invoice and the
> >5096th definition of a purchase order.
> >
> >Again (I expect) we will face the reality that even SME will require
> >branch specific information in their documents and will "interpret" this
> >or that so or different, will use price including tax and the addition
> >of tax and net price will not match the total price and so on.
> In the U.S., Quickbooks has something like 80% market share.
> How do you explain the fact that such an overwhelming percentage
> of small businesses are able to run their company with a total
> vocabulary of something like 200 data elements, and a single page
> invoice and order?
> Frank with all due respect, SMEs will *not* have this problem you
> describe, interpreting documents. You are neglecting the facts that
> in SMEs there is extreme compression of the roles, and that all
> of their buying and selling is conducted manually, by people who
> will be dead if they're not alert. They already conducted the sale
> or purchase personally and they don't sit and maintain diaries
> of every detail in their computer, now or ever.
> It will be a permanent feature of SMEs, that most sales or purchases
> are conducted by ONE person and that they neither need, nor
> desire, detailed documentation, detailed contracts, or step-
> by-step business process software.  They just need a way to
> make their bookkeeping automatic for cash, inventory, payables,
> and receivables.
> If large Enterprises have a problem processing a standard PO
> or invoice with SMEs that's tough luck because SMEs are not
> going to start doing extra keypunching just to make things
> more convenient for the Enterprises.
> I will concede, if the vision of the UMM, CPPA, RegRep and
> BCPMC were realized in a piece of software, and it were handed
> to SMEs for free, and it was capable of running alongside the
> existing accounting system, they might install it.  The very
> first thing they would do is configure it to be limited to their
> own context (the SME context of 200 words vocabulary), and
> limit the documents support to orders and invoices capable
> of being understood by Quickbooks.  This is rather like
> giving Maserati race cars, capable of 300KPH to every
> suburban family in order to speed up the traffic on the
> streets where speed limits are never more than 100Kph,
> since they won't buy it themselves...
> Todd
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