Re: [ebxml-dev] WS vs ebXML poll

[James Bryce Clark <jamie.clark@mmiec.com>]

At 05:00 AM 6/14/02, gummi@dimonsoftware.com
wrote:
> Strange poll,
> 1) The option "Web Services make more sense" is weaker
>    than "ebXML is superior", and therefore likely
> to
>    get votes and
> 2) I can't see how people can really see these two
>    technologies as condradicting, we use web services
>    _and_ ebXML, but each for a different purposes.
>    Apples and oranges, which is
> superior?!?

I think you and JJ are exactly right, and posted substantially the same
comment to the poll site:

> Topic:
> unparseable ebXML poll
> Author: Jamie Clark 
> Time:  14.06.2002 15:05 
> What low-attention-span person defined this poll?  There is no
> "versus"; this isn't West Side Story.  Web services are
> not one fixed set of schema owned by somebody.  They are a group of
> open transport, resource discovery and resource description
> standards.  Some have acheived consensus (like SOAP), some are just
> starting to coalesce (like the resource description candidates), and some
> are just naked power grabs too recent to assess in terms of market
> adoption. 
>
> I can't vote on ebXML "versus" web services because the first
> is a subset of the second.  So are WS-I, .NET, Sun One, etc.,
> etc.  I COULD vote on ebXML versus WS-I, the vendor-centric effort
> to tie the market to IBM-Microsoft-Verisign products and proprietary
> security algorithms ... but that wasn't your poll. 
>
> Jamie Clark 
> ebXML participant and partisan, e-commerce lawyer, and guy who doesn't
> sell any software 

Of course, it was nice to see that we got voluntary support from a bunch
of voters anyway.

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