[ebxml-dev] RE: elevator pitches (was) gorillas, beaches, etc.

[James Bryce Clark <jamie.clark@mmiec.com>]

At 11:00 PM 6/18/02, Bill Morgan wrote:
> Gartner
> (Wes Rishel & Jess Thompson) talked today at a Web Services
> conference in L.A. to a group of about 400 people and basically addressed
> ebXMLas inadequate as unable to fulfill the "hype".  They
> did say that the ebXML Message Service Handler is the only secure way to
> collaborate (vs. SOAP), but the standard will not be broadly adopted
> because it will soon be replaced by a W3C standard.
> ***

Not live up to our hype?  Gee, did we have hype?  

I have seen some of the Gartner comments;  they certainly do strive
to be 'social conditioning' pundits.   Their views seem to come
more from a vendor-centric than adopter-centric vantage point,
though.   

They seem overly ignorant of adopter concerns about vendor-influence
issues, and overly confident that W3C will act in a coordinated
manner.  (If only!)   Perhaps Wes is confusing W3C with
WS-I ... which I'm sure would be pleasing to WS-I.  Of course, as I
recall, Wes' company has said elsewhere that WS-I is going to flail
around aimlessly for a while due to internal catfights.  

If we get the fundamentals right, the pundits will come around. 
Most are reactive rather than proactive, so I doubt it makes much sense
to directly evangelize them or worry too much about their opinion du
jour.    

Bill, are you still in town?  I will comment further off list. 
Regards  Jamie

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