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RE: XML serialization of CCs / BIEs (was: contact information)


Thank you all for your feedback.  Our main interest is in a format
that allows us to build a user interface for domain experts in charge
of managing data dictionaries, on which we want to base our runtime 
messages.   So, this is a format from which to generate XML schemas
(or building blocks for schemas),  such as the Excel sheets used by 
UBL. We may prefer an XML format and use a customized XML editor 
as user interface.  

Generation of XML schema from a different source format allows us to 
move to other "syntaxes" (a much-abused term imho) in the future and 
should also allow future storage (or just publication) in a registry.
For the mapping to XML, the UBL methodology of generating XML schemas
is very well-designed.  

In addition to these references there is also a DTD for ISO/IEC 11179 
by Terry Allen, dating back from 1999.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: CRAWFORD, Mark [mailto:MCRAWFORD@lmi.org]
> Sent: 29 October 2003 20:40
> To: Ebxml-Dev
> Subject: RE: XML serialization of CCs / BIEs (was: contact information)
> 
> 
> Pim,
> 
> I am glad that Joe will have the note finished soon.  In the meantime,
the UBL TC will be finishing its work on XML 
> representations of CCTS next week in San Francisco and should be
publishing a committee spec draft within two weeks.
> 
> 
> Mark Crawford 
> Research Fellow - LMI XML Lead 
> W3C Advisory Committee, OASIS, RosettaNet Representative 
> Vice Chair - OASIS UBL TC & Chair Naming and Design Rules Subcommittee 
> Chair - UN/CEFACT XML Syntax Working Group 
> Editor - UN/CEFACT Core Components 
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chiusano Joseph [mailto:chiusano_joseph@bah.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 1:08 PM
> > To: Pim van der Eijk
> > Cc: Ebxml-Dev; CRAWFORD, Mark; Duane Nickull
> > Subject: Re: XML serialization of CCs / BIEs (was: contact 
> > information)
> > 
> > 
> > <Quote>
> > Are there other similar actvities I should be aware of?
> > </Quote>
> > 
> > Pim,
> > 
> > Sorry for the late response on this - I believe you're 
> > already aware of
> > this but just for the benefit of others, the OASIS/ebXML 
> > Registry TC is
> > in the process of creating an RIM (Registry Information Model) binding
> > for representing Core Components in an ebXML Registry. I am in the
> > process of writing the Technical Note, and hope to complete 
> > it in early
> > 2004. 
> > 
> > I would like to emphasize that this effort does not involve an XML
> > serialization - rather, we will rely on other groups (such as 
> > UN/CEFACT
> > ATG 2) to create such a serialization. The Technical Note will address
> > how to represent the Core Components metadata (Chapter 7 of the Core
> > Components Technical Specification) in the RIM, using existing RIM
> > classes where possible and extending the RIM with "custom" classes
> > otherwise. The only relation to an XML serialization is that we will
> > provide the capability for the registry to record the format of a Core
> > Component (and its associated entities), e.g. XML, UML model, etc.
> > 
> > Hope this helps.
> > 
> > Kind Regards,
> > Joe Chiusano
> > Booz | Allen | Hamilton
> > 
> > Pim van der Eijk wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I am interested in this topic.  I would like to make sure I 
> > understand
> > > what the scope of this activity is. In particular, am I correct to
> > > interpret this as an XML representation that could serve as an
> > > alternative for the Excel sheets as used in UBL CEFACT to 
> > encode Core
> > > Components or BIEs, or does it have a different purpose ?
> > > 
> > > Would it be just an interchange representation, or would it also
> > > support authoring (data definition)?
> > > 
> > > My interest is the following: in a project (on interchange of data
> > > across government agencies) I am involved in we have about 400 BIEs
> > > defined in a 150 page Word document that serves as 
> > specification for a
> > > collection of XML schemas for interchange documents. To alleviate
> > > maintenance, our plan is to transform the Word document to an XML
> > > document from which we can generate the XML schema and documentation
> > > in a consistent way in the next couple of weeks, a bit like the UBL
> > > XLS to XSD Perl script but then using XSLT.
> > > 
> > > It seems that an XML schema corresponding to the UBL 
> > worksheets would
> > > be a fairly simple schema.  In our case we would need to 
> > extend it in
> > > a number of areas (metadata, documentation elements). We 
> > will do this
> > > ourselves, but if there is some starting point, in ATG2 or by other
> > > initiatives (like Duane's) we could use (to facilitate migration to
> > > some future standard format), that would be great.
> > > 
> > > Could you give me an update on the current state of this work?
> > > Are there other similar actvities I should be aware of?
> > > 
> > > Kind regards,
> > > 
> > > Pim van der Eijk
> > > 
> > > --------
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> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: CRAWFORD, Mark [mailto:MCRAWFORD@lmi.org]
> > > > Sent: 02 October 2003 06:21
> > > > To: UN/CEFACT TMG General Discussion List
> > > > Subject: RE: Request for contact
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Duane,
> > > >
> > > > Fred is correct.  It is ATG2 which at this point is 
> > basing its work primarily on the groundbreaking work of UBL in this
> > > > area.  Give me a call and we can discuss.
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Fred Blommestein, van 
> > [mailto:f.van.blommestein@berenschot.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:54 AM
> > > > > To: UN/CEFACT TMG General Discussion List
> > > > > Subject: RE: Request for contact
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Duane,
> > > > >
> > > > > To my understanding Mark Crawford MCRAWFORD@lmi.org is 
> > leading that
> > > > > team.
> > > > > I'm glad you keep so good in touch. For me the fun would have
> > > > > disappeared if you really would have been gone.
> > > > >
> > > > > Fred
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Duane Nickull [mailto:duane@yellowdragonsoft.com]
> > > > > Sent: woensdag 1 oktober 2003 16:50
> > > > > To: UN/CEFACT TMG General Discussion List
> > > > > Subject: Request for contact
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Can anyone supply me with information on the ATG group
> > > > > working on an XML
> > > > >
> > > > > serialization of core components/BIE's?  In the quest 
> > for a group of
> > > > > logical components, we are working on an XML format ourselves.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Duane
> > > > >
> > > > >
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