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Subject: Re: What the ? is happening to ebxml, and where the ? is it going ?


Jean-Jacques Dubray wrote:
> 
> Did you mean GSA or GXA? 

Oops - I mean GXA (see how I am always thinking of my clients?:) Thanks
JJ!!

Kind Regards,
Joe Chiusano
Booz | Allen | Hamilton
Strategy and Technology Consultants to the World

> How do we know that any given stack is
> "complete", what is the criteria to leave something out?
> 
> JJ-
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chiusano Joseph [mailto:chiusano_joseph@bah.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 3:05 PM
> To: Jean-Jacques Dubray
> Cc: Monica J. Martin; shodZ; ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org
> Subject: Re: What the ? is happening to ebxml, and where the ? is it
> going ?
> 
> Thanks JJ - I count less than 20 specs that fall under the GSA umbrella.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Joe Chiusano
> Booz | Allen | Hamilton
> Strategy and Technology Consultants to the World
> 
> Jean-Jacques Dubray wrote:
> >
> > http://roadmap.cbdiforum.com/reports/protocols/summary.php
> >
> > JJ-
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chiusano Joseph [mailto:chiusano_joseph@bah.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 11:35 AM
> > To: Monica J. Martin
> > Cc: shodZ; ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org
> > Subject: Re: What the ? is happening to ebxml, and where the ? is it
> > going ?
> >
> > "Monica J. Martin" wrote:
> > >
> > > shodZ wrote:
> > >
> > > >im with david. ebXML is becoming just too complex, without
> delivering
> > > >teh real promises. i did rather put my bet on GXA(Global XML
> > > >WebServices Architecture) now, which is being co-authored by
> > > >Microsoft(majority) and IBM. atleast it is based on standards which
> > > >have been really tested out there in the market(yeah man, i`m
> talking
> > > >about SOAP)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > mm: Two important points: (1) Web services are an implementation
> > option
> > > for SOA. That does not preclude the use of ebXML specifications in
> the
> > > SOA world.  In addition, and to be clear: If you stack up the GXA
> > > architecture of almost/greater than/at least 50 specifications,
> >
> > That's surprising - last time I counted it was about half that (at
> > most). Do you have any reference on this?
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Joe Chiusano
> > Booz | Allen | Hamilton
> > Strategy and Technology Consultants to the World
> >
> > > complexity seems to also apply [1].  (2) Either specifications sets
> or
> > > even a mix of both could be used to meet customers' needs.  In
> > addition,
> > > a convergence effort is being guided by AIAG automotive to seize the
> > > benefit of all the relevant technologies.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > [1] All technologies could be relevant and important.
> > >
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> > --
> > Kind Regards,
> > Joseph Chiusano
> > Associate
> > Booz | Allen | Hamilton
> >
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> --
> Kind Regards,
> Joseph Chiusano
> Associate
> Booz | Allen | Hamilton

-- 
Kind Regards,
Joseph Chiusano
Associate
Booz | Allen | Hamilton


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