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RE: SV: ebms seperation from ebxml

Regarding ebMail, the original CoverPages article for it sited
as follows (don't know if this still applies)
http://xml.coverpages.org/ni2003-06-12-d.html
"...Two of the pilot project partners using ebMail are Department of
Health of the Hong Kong Government and Hong Kong Observatory. CECID has
developed a prototype based on ebMail for the Department of Health to
streamline its pharmaceutical products import and export licensing
application procedure. The Center is starting the development of a new
ebMail plug-in for Hong Kong Observatory, which has been designated by the
United Nations' World Meteorological Organization (WMO) to collect world
weather information for the WMO's Website.
..."
I'd be very interested to hear of others using ebMail too
(or further opensource or commercial applications based on it).

Stephen Green


>>> "Stephen Green" <stephen_green@bristol-city.gov.uk> 21/07/04 13:33:35
>>>
Bryan
 
This is the scenario for the ebMail tool (ebMS with some CPA but no more)
as far as I know,
so if you find users of ebMail I'd say that gives some answer to your
question.
 
Stephen Green

	-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Rasmussen <brs@itst.dk> 
Sent: 21 July 2004 13:10
To: 'Matthew MacKenzie' <mattm@adobe.com>
Cc: <ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org>
Subject: SV: SV: ebms seperation from ebxml



	I know that ebMS needs no other ebXML components, however in
making 
statements like that for other people to read it is often highly
beneficial 
to point to cases in which ebMS has been used without using other ebXML 
components, given that I'm not gonna be able to tell my boss or similar 
level people, read the specification, they want to see something that
makes 
them feel secure. This is why I'm asking onlist for all examples people
have 
where ebMS has been implemented/used seperate from ebXML 
implementation/usage. 

	     Oprindelig meddelelse      
Fra: Matthew MacKenzie [ mailto:mattm@adobe.com] 
Sendt: 21. juli 2004 14:05 
Til: Bryan Rasmussen 
Cc: ebxml dev@lists.ebxml.org 
Emne: Re: SV: ebms seperation from ebxml 


	As I said, ebMS needs no other ebXML components, its more or less 
spelled out in the specification.  Doc lit web services can be deployed 
as ebMS services very easily. 

	Also, re: UDDI    ebxml does have its own Registry.  Companies
such as 
Adobe (my employer) have implementations. 

	 Mattt 

	On 21 Jul 04, at 8:40 AM, Bryan Rasmussen wrote: 

	> well actually that's what I meant, do you have any examples of
these 
> ebMS 
> implementations without the CPP/A, with the CPP/A but without other 
> ebXML 
> framework involvement. The thing I would really like to figure out is, 
> with 
> all the stuff we have in house, how close are we to ebXML, as in what 
> would 
> we have to do to get there, and can we graduate that process, take our 
> doc literal webservices for example, reformulate as ebMS messages and 
> so 
> forth. 
> 
> I'm looking at it like this, we have a registry (UDDI), we have some 
> sort of 
> repository which pretty much just returns objects in the filesystem 
> combined 
> with metadata, we have various services and business processes, we 
> have a 
> procurement system running somewhere passing UBL documents, the more I 
> look 
> at it the more I start thinking that ebXML is indicated. 
> 
>      Oprindelig meddelelse      
> Fra: Matthew MacKenzie [ mailto:mattm@adobe.com] 
> Sendt: 21. juli 2004 13:29 
> Til: Bryan Rasmussen 
> Cc: ebxml dev@lists.ebxml.org 
> Emne: Re: ebms seperation from ebxml 
> 
> 
> Bryan, 
> 
> I know this is not an example, but I would like to point out that ebMS 
> can be used in any place where document literal web services are in 
> use.  It really doesn't rely on any other parts of the ebMS stack    
> even CPP/A can be and is omitted from many ebMS implementations. 
> 
>  Matt 
> 
> On 21 Jul 04, at 6:59 AM, Bryan Rasmussen wrote: 
> 
>> Does anyone have any examples of ebms usage seperate from the ebxml 
>> architecture? 
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