RE: [ebxml-mktg-sc] WP - eBusiness Solutions Part 1 - Messaging

[Alan Kotok <akotok@disa.org>]

Mark, et al:

I was trying to make two points about using the terms EDI and VAN.  (1) EDI 
is the syntax and VAN is the delivery.  You can use ebMS or AS2 to deliver 
messages in EDI syntax.  (2) If VANs now use AS2, why have separate columns 
for VANs and AS2?  If people in the business like myself are confused, why 
perpetuate the confusion in this table?

Alan Kotok
Editor, < E-Business*Standards*Today />
http://www.disa.org/dailywire/
Data Interchange Standards Association
akotok@disa.org
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At 09:52 AM 4/22/03 -0400, Yader, Mark (GXS) wrote:

>Alan,
>
>Your view of VANs is quite out-of-date. Our VAN supports a wide range of 
>Internet access methods, including AS2 and S/FTP.
>
>Mark
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alan Kotok [<mailto:akotok@disa.org>mailto:akotok@disa.org]
>Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 8:55 AM
>To: David RR Webber - XML ebusiness; ebXML Mkt Steering
>Subject: RE: [ebxml-mktg-sc] WP - eBusiness Solutions Part 1 - Messaging
>
>David, et al:
>
>Sorry about not responding sooner.  The old bandwidth problem.
>
>One basic issue that you need to address is the scoring method.  Your
>expertise on the subject not withstanding, other people representing other
>technologies would likely give different scores looking at the same set of
>criteria.  My recommendation would be to score the factor as Yes/No rather
>than a 0 to 9 scale.  In that way, your numbers are more solidly based and
>less open to interpretation.
>
>The other suggestion is to separate EDI from the VAN.  EDI is the message
>syntax, VAN is the delivery mechanism.  AS2 delivers EDI as well, and so
>can ebMS.  Also, as I recall, VANS do not use secure FTP, but dedicated
>leased lines.
>
>And forgive my fading memory, but if this paper is part 1, what are the
>other parts?
>
>Alan Kotok
>Editor, < E-Business*Standards*Today />
><http://www.disa.org/dailywire/>http://www.disa.org/dailywire/
>Data Interchange Standards Association
>akotok@disa.org
>+1 703-518-4174
>
>
>At 08:36 PM 4/21/03 -0400, David RR Webber - XML ebusiness wrote:
> >Reminder to everyone.
> >
> >Please review this document and let me know what you think?
> >
> >Can we release this as a team product?
> >
> >Also - its time we had another meeting.   Of course we're
> >going 0-3 right now on this.  But its basketball season - so
> >I don;t mind throwing up another ball for 0-4 !
> >
> >Mark, can you schedule another call for us Wednesday 30th
> >at midday EST?
> >
> >If anyone cannot make that - please shout - otherwise we'll
> >assume its good.
> >
> >The Agenda will be:
> >
> >1) Sign-off on WP - Part 1
> >
> >2) Advancing our JMT
> >
> >3) Final preparation for London show
> >
> >4) AOB.
> >
> >Thanks, DW.