RE: [ebxml-mktg-sc] Re: [regrep] UDDI as the registry for ebXML components: Typo?

["Yader, Mark (GXS)" <Mark.Yader@gxs.com>]

Title: RE: [ebxml-mktg-sc] Re: [regrep] UDDI as the registry for ebXML components: Typo?

I definitley "second" this idea.I hav been tryinhg to develop a business case for my company to start an R&D program to look at how a Resgistry infrastructure could improve our B2B services capabilities. If the White Paper will attempt to develop real-life business "use cases", then it will be very helpful !!

Regards......Mark

PS>Yes, I will help if I can.

-----Original Message-----
From: David RR Webber - XML ebusiness [mailto:Gnosis_@compuserve.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 12:08 AM
To: ebXML Mkt Steering; Joseph Chiusano
Subject: [ebxml-mktg-sc] Re: [regrep] UDDI as the registry for ebXML
components: Typo?

Folks,

This discussion over in Registry highlights another need -
White Paper on web services and ebXML registry.

It would be good if we could persuade Joe to help
us with that - and then of course we can promote
that thru our normal channels.

It also seems to me that such a white paper would
be a great segway for the one we published last
month on messaging.   It could also follow a
similar format - looking at the business needs.

Does anyone want to help Joe edit and produce
this from our team side?

Thoughts?

I think we should be able to get an outline
table of contents together pretty quickly -
again following the previous format could
just work.

Thanks, DW.

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From:   "Anne Thomas Manes", INTERNET:anne@manes.net
To:     [unknown], INTERNET:regrep@lists.oasis-open.org
        "Peter Kacandes", INTERNET:pkacande@adobe.com
       
Date:   7/1/2003  5:57 PM

RE:     Re: [regrep] UDDI as the registry for ebXML components: Typo?

 
That's harsh.
It was not our intent to deter awareness of ebXML Registry. Keisuke
initiated the effort to write the technical note because he has customers
that use both ebXML and WSDL Web services, and they were asking for
guidance.

Anne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Kacandes" <pkacande@adobe.com>
To: <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 5:28 PM
Subject: RE: [regrep] UDDI as the registry for ebXML components: Typo?

> >which does nothing for raising awareness of ebXML Registry and Web
> >services (in fact, it deters it).
>
> Which I'm pretty sure is exactly their intent.
>
> pk
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chiusano Joseph [mailto:chiusano_joseph@bah.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 1:55 PM
> To: Anne Thomas Manes
> Cc: regrep@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [regrep] UDDI as the registry for ebXML components: Typo?
>
>
> <Quote1>
> It is not a typo. It's meant to say that you probably want to use only
> one registry for both UDDI and ebXML.
> </Quote1>
>
> But that's not what the following statement says:
>
> "This introduces significant concerns of cost and manageability, because
> ebXML and Web services impose separate infrastructure requirements and
> platform components."
>
> To me, that statement says that one cannot use ebXML for Web services,
> because the two require separate infrastructure requirements and
> platform components. That is definitely not the case. My concern is that
> others may read this statement and interpret it the same way that I did,
> which does nothing for raising awareness of ebXML Registry and Web
> services (in fact, it deters it).
>
> <Quote2>
> Likewise the ebXML team might want to produce a similar technical note
> that explains how you can use regrep to register WSDL services.
> </Quote2>
>
> Already done - please see:
>
> http://xml.coverpages.org/RegisteringWebServices.pdf
> (dated 12 March 2003)
>
> Joe
>
> Anne Thomas Manes wrote:
> >
> > It is not a typo. It's meant to say that you probably want to use only
one
> > registry for both UDDI and ebXML. This technical note explains how you
can
> > use UDDI to register ebXML services. Likewise the ebXML team might want
to
> > produce a similar technical note that explains how you can use regrep to
> > register WSDL services.
> >
> > Anne
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>
> > To: <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 4:07 PM
> > Subject: [regrep] UDDI as the registry for ebXML components: Typo?
> >
> > > In the UDDI Technical Note "UDDI as the registry for ebXML components"
> > > [1], the Problem statement (p.3) states:
> > >
> > > "This introduces significant concerns of cost and manageability,
because
> > > ebXML and Web services impose separate infrastructure requirements and
> > > platform components."
> > >
> > > Is this entirely accurate, given that one can register and maintain
Web
> > > services in an ebXML Registry? The entire Problem statement is
> > > reproduced below. I wonder if this is a typo.
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > > 1.1 Problem statement
> > > Multiple consortia have initiated pilot projects using the ebXML
> > > framework for business-to-business transactions, while corporations
have
> > > also begun adopting ebXML technologies for internal use. At the same
> > > time Web service technologies, which have significant momentum due to
> > > unprecedented industry support, are also being rolled out. This
> > > introduces significant concerns of cost and manageability, because
ebXML
> > > and Web services impose separate infrastructure requirements and
> > > platform components.
> > >
> > > As a universal technology for publication and discovery of service
> > > metadata, UDDI allows the bridging of the two infrastructures by
> > > accommodating metadata registrations for Web services as well as ebXML
> > > framework components, enabling interoperability among trading partners

> > > using ebXML or Web services. However, a prescribed methodology of
> > > modeling services and components which are conformant to ebXML
> > > specifications is required to make interoperable solutions possible.
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> >
>
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/uddi-spec/doc/draft/uddi-spec-tc-tn-udd
> > i-ebxml-20030508.htm
> >
>
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>
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