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Subject: Re: ebXML TR&P Interoperabiltiy event


Would it be somewhat premature to rule out OTA.  There has been a lot of public
endorsement of cooperation between OTA and ebXML.  Would we be dumping OTA to go to
RosettaNet just because of the familiarity factor?  The world was looking very
closely to the demo in Brussels and to make any changes at this point I'd like to
hear a take from more of the group including Rick.  And I'd like to hear Scott
Hinkleman's take on this as well.
Thanks..
Jerry

Nicholas Kassem wrote:

> Seems like a reasonable suggestion to me.
>
> I expect to be able to announce the creation of the ebxml-poc (proof of
> concept) discussion list shortly. Karl Best is setting up this at the OASIS
> end. Once we get a better sense of who will be stepping up to participate
> in the interoperability event we can close on the payload issue quickly (I
> hope).
>
> Regards,
> Nick
>
> At 01:28 PM 6/22/2000 -0400, Christopher Ferris wrote:
> >This works for me! ;-)
> >
> >Marc Breissinger wrote:
> > >
> > > I know we picked OTA in an earlier round, but might I suggest we
> > utilize PIP
> > > 3A4 from RosettaNet instead.  The process interaction definition is much
> > > more complete which will save confusion and the vendors who might implement
> > > in this event are already intimately familiar with it.  Further, it would
> > > show how easily ebXML TRP could replace RNIF in the future.
> > >
> > > marc
> > >
> > > ==========================================================================
> > > Marc Breissinger                                   voice (W): 703-460-2504
> > > Director, Product Strategy - webMethods, Inc.      voice (C): 703-989-7689
> > > Email:  marcb@webmethods.com                               We're hiring!!!
> > > Email2: breissim@earthlink.net              URL: http://www.webmethods.com
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> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-ebxml-transport@lists.oasis-open.org
> > > > [mailto:owner-ebxml-transport@lists.oasis-open.org]On Behalf Of Nicholas
> > > > Kassem
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 3:41 PM
> > > > To: mwsachs@us.ibm.com
> > > > Cc: ebXML Transport
> > > > Subject: Re: ebXML TR&P Interoperabiltiy event
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 08:28 AM 6/20/2000 -0400, mwsachs@us.ibm.com wrote:
> > > > >Any need to share code or hardware in the real world will defeat
> > > > the whole
> > > > >purpose of ebXML.  One of the most important requirements on
> > > > what we in IBM
> > > > >Research are doing with tpaML and its runtime is that there must be no
> > > > >requirement for a pair of partners to use the same application code,
> > > > >run-time middleware, or hardware.
> > > >
> > > > Agreed.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >If anyone is really worried about IP in the business process area, build
> > > > >the demo based on the business process layer of a public-domain protocol
> > > > >such as OBI.  It wouldn't be OBI because it would have ebXML messaging
> > > > >instead of the current OBI messaging but it should avoid any IP
> > > > hassles at
> > > > >the business process layer.
> > > >
> > > > We picked the OTA work in an earlier prototype to demonstrate some higher
> > > > level notions (transport neutrality, role of ebXML TR&P, ebXML
> > > > value-proposition etc. etc.) I think we are now passed that point but I
> > > > think there are still some engineering level details that need to
> > > > be worked
> > > > out. Hence my earlier post / invitation.
> > > >
> > > > Nick
> > > >
> > > >
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