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Subject: RE: Trading Partner Logical Identification based on EDIFACT orX12qualifiers


I understand the discussion about unique identifiers, but the dicussion
seems focused entirely on businesses. Where does this leave the consumer?


|-----Original Message-----
|From: rholmes [mailto:rholmes@mac.com]
|Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 10:28 PM
|To: ebXML Transport (E-mail)
|Subject: Re: Trading Partner Logical Identification based on EDIFACT or
|In Australia, every company that trades has to have an ABN (Australian
|Business Number - I think) when they register with the Taxation office.
|Each company also has an Australian Company Number (ACN), but
|these seem to
|have been replaced by the ABN since the GST came in only 1.5
|months ago.
|The ABN is by nature unique as the Australian Tax Office need to have
|records of all business that trade within Australia.
|That brings up another question, what about cross border
|transactions - are
|there any international numbers assigned anywhere to
|companies, or should
|the companies involved in the transactions have a number set
|up?  I guess
|this is where registration with some body has it's pluses.
|Ron Holmes
|IT Manager
|Inovax Limited,
|Perth, Western Australia
|> From: "William J. Kammerer" <wkammerer@foresightcorp.com>
|> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:13:11 -0400
|> To: "ebXML Transport (E-mail)" <ebXML-Transport@lists.ebxml.org>
|> Subject: Re: Trading Partner Logical Identification based on
|> qualifiers
|> David Burdett wrote "I *think* the proposal [to identify senders and
|> receivers by any one of the available EDIFACT or X12
|qualifiers] would
|> *require* every organization to register themselves within an
|> ISO/X12/EDIFACT registry before they could use TRP messaging."
|> Then David RR Webber intoned "No, no!  Exactly NOT.  How did
|we arrive
|> at this conclusion? Where is William when I need him anyway??
|> Dear David RR Webber:
|> Now you want me.  That feels good.
|> Dear David Burdett:
|> Practically every company, in the U.S. at least, is marked
|at birth with
|> the sign of the Beast. Whether it's desired or not.  We all have DUNS
|> Numbers - your company, Commerce One (835471095), mine
|(782501225), or
|> Ralph's bTrade (802712091).  Even a little dipshit outfit like the
|> Drummond Group has a DUNS (830820767).  The only one which was not
|> readily discernible was that for David RR Webber's XML
|Global; in this
|> case there's a fallback - the U.S. Federal EIN (XML Global's is
|> 841434313).
|> Both the DUNS and the FEIN are unique, indelible marks that
|follow the
|> company its entire life.  Don't worry about needing one of
|these suckers
|> for transacting ebXML;  first, you'd have to get one before
|you ever got
|> a bank loan, opened a checking account, filed for an IPO or
|hired your
|> first employee.
|> William J. Kammerer
|> 4950 Blazer Memorial Pkwy.
|> Dublin, OH USA 43017-3305
|> +1 614 791-1600
|> Visit FORESIGHT Corp. at http://www.foresightcorp.com/
|> "Commerce for a New World"

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