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Subject: Re: The Overview & Requirements Spec is TOAST ??
- From: Ralph Berwanger <rab7067@earthlink.net>
- To: ebxml-transport@lists.ebxml.org
- Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 08:33:03 -0400
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R. Berwanger
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 3:50 PM
Subject: The Overview & Requirements Spec is
TOAST ??
> I don't think I agreed to update the Overview
& Requirements spec on the
> fly?
>
> Particularly
changing the requirements & overview spec at the same time as
> we're
changing the messsaging services spec is completely untenable as it
> will
lead to inconsistencies, and require a tremendous amount of time to do
> -
that I haven't got. It also makes it a meaningless exercise since the
>
REQUIREMENTS that are defined are no longer being used as
REQUIREMENTS.
I think that we are assuming
that all our requirements have been captured in the general ebXML requirements
so that this document is no longer required. My only convern is that I am
not confident that we have a process that allows us to add or modify the
requirements as our discovery process continues. I am a strong supporter
of having all the ebXML requirements in a single place; however, I am not sure
that we have a process that can define, valdiate, and add these requirements as
quickly as we may need. I offer the Brussels meeting as an example.
I remember that as we worked through the Message Header document we were
discovering requirements moment by moment. We are almost six months
further along, but I am confident that there are still requirements lurking
about that must be properly stated.
> So
basically folks, now, my view is that the Overview and Requirements spec
>
is TOAST !! We no longer need to refer to it, nor are we using it to:
> 1.
control the scope of what we do
> 2. provide a reference of what we are
trying to achieve.
>
> This also goes completely against all the
project management/systems
> development activities I have ever been
involved in where you write the
> requirements first then build to
them.
I completely agree. We state the requirements
then build; however, our history seems to show that we either have not
done a very good job of defining the requirements or that the problem is
evolving at the same moment we are trying to define it. I honestly believe
that we have tried to do the very best job possible to define the requirements,
but the problem is still immature. Just look at the security area if you
doubt this fact. I am willing to say that we have validated requirements
that we must build to--I also say that we have emerging requirements that we
must recognize when they surface. I can support a process that validates
the requirements and then passes them to the Requirements PT for inclusion in
the ebXML requirements document, still I would like confidence that a
highly-reactive process has been put in place to do this.
>
> So my conclusion is ...
>
> LET ANARCHY PREVAIL
>
> Ok, now perhaps I'm putting it a
bit strong, but do we really want to build
> a solution without having ANY
requirements onm which is based. I think not.
>
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CTaylorEvans@aol.com [mailto:CTaylorEvans@aol.com]
>
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 6:35 AM
> To: ebxml-transport@lists.ebxml.org> Subject: Re: Do we need to revisit the Overview & Requirements
document
>
>
> At the San Jose meeting David 'volunteered'
to be the keeper of the
> requirements document and bring it up to date
with all recent discussions.
>
> Best regards,
>
Colleen
>
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