RE: Schema & BP Spec: Items for today's BP/CC meeting

[Betty Harvey <ebxml@eccnet.eccnet.com>]

I have had it crash also but it usually finds an error and reports
it in the xsv.xml file.  Microsoft announced their new parser
MSXML 4.0 which is supposed to support the latest version of
the W3C schema.  I haven't downloaded the Microsoft 4.0
parser yet so I can't vouch for its validity.

I took version 099 of the DTD and converted with Extensibility.
I had to modify the namespace specifications and it validated
with the validation tool.  I didn't add any of the datatypes
into the schema, however, it should work.

The version I created is available at:

	http://www.eccnet.com/test/EbXmlProcessSpecification.xsd


Betty

On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Kanaskie, Kurt A (Kurt) wrote:

> Betty,
> 
> Thanks, I tried the validator but both my and Neal's version caused it to
> crash. I'll continue to work the issue. I feel comfortable with the output
> of XML Spy and XML Authority, apart from the fact that they are not up to
> speed with the latest PR version. They claim its coming soon though.
> 
> ________________________________________________________________
> Kurt Kanaskie
> Lucent Technologies
> kkanaskie@lucent.com
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> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 	Betty Harvey [mailto:ebxml@eccnet.eccnet.com] 
> Sent:	Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:17 PM
> To:	Kanaskie, Kurt A (Kurt)
> Cc:	'Smith, Neal L. (NLSM)'; 'ebxml-bp@lists.ebxml.org'
> Subject:	RE: Schema & BP Spec: Items for today's BP/CC meeting
> 
> 
> Hi Kurt:
> 
> 	As a sanity check, I would also suggest running the
> schema through Henry Thompson and Richard Tobin's schema
> validator available at:  http://www.w3.org/2001/03/webdata/xsv.
> 
> Betty
> 
> On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Kanaskie, Kurt A (Kurt) wrote:
> 
> > Neal,
> > 
> > Regarding an XML Schema version of the BP Spec, Karsten tells me you are
> > working on this. I have already generated one, anticipating the request.
> My
> > methodology was quite simple:
> > 1. Use XML Spy to create an XSD from the existing DTD (Spy does not
> support
> > the PR version, but the only difference I see is duration)
> > 2. Change the appropriate elements to the existing datatypes
> > a. Boolean
> > b. uriReference
> > c. duration
> > d. enumeration
> > 
> > This allows the same XML to be validated by both a DTD and Schema merely
> by
> > assignment within Spy. I like XML Spy!
> > 
> > I plan on providing a Schema version along with an updated DTD by COB
> today.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > ________________________________________________________________
> > Kurt Kanaskie
> > Lucent Technologies
> > kkanaskie@lucent.com
> > (610) 778-1069 Note the new number!
> > 
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: 	Smith, Neal L. (NLSM) [mailto:NLSM@chevron.com] 
> > Sent:	Monday, April 16, 2001 10:37 PM
> > To:	'ebxml@eccnet.eccnet.com'
> > Cc:	'ebxml-bp@lists.ebxml.org'
> > Subject:	Re: Schema & BP Spec: Items for today's BP/CC meeting
> > 
> > EbXML Requirements document states a preference for W3C schema standards,
> > not OASIS or ISO. 
> >  
> > --------------------------
> > Neal Smith
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Betty Harvey <ebxml@eccnet.eccnet.com>
> > To: Hayes, Brian <Brian.Hayes@Commerceone.com>
> > CC: ebxml-bp@lists.ebxml.org <ebxml-bp@lists.ebxml.org>
> > Sent: Mon Apr 16 22:06:12 2001
> > Subject: Re: Schema & BP Spec: Items for today's BP/CC meeting
> > 
> > 
> > The problem with delivering only a W3C schema is that it isn't
> > approved yet.  Tools available for working with schemas
> > are limited.  If ebXML is a standards body, it can't deliver
> > only a schema when schema is standard.  Also, there are 2 other
> > schema specifications being worked on by 2 other standards
> > organizations, TREX by OASIS and RELAX through ISO.  
> > 
> > I think it would be wiser to deliver a DTD as the official
> > deliverable and a schema as an 'added value'.
> > 
> > Betty
> > 
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> > 
> > On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Hayes, Brian wrote:
> > 
> > > Karsten wrote: 
> > > > An issue just raised by Neal: Should we include a W3C schema 
> > > > version of the
> > > > SpecSchema along with (or instead of) the DTD? What is the 
> > > > recommendation from
> > > > BP/CC - DTD or Schema, or both?
> > > 
> > > Time permiting, I strongly recommend we deliver a schema version.  DTDs
> > are
> > > not precise enough for defining interfaces (structure and strings) and
> the
> > > BP Spec Schema is essentially and interface.
> > > 
> > > Brian
> > > 
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