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Subject: Re: AW: [ebxml-dev] Anyone else rather perturbed by IBM'srecentannouncement....



Yep - you would be fleeing a RAND company and running to a proprietary
system.

Please rest assured that those who are able to speak for IBM in these
matters are well aware of these discussions and working on a response.

Regarding "validity of the IBM claim", I am not sure what sort of validity
of what sort of claim is being discussed.  Validity of the patent is
normally analyzed by the attorneys in any company that might be liable for
licensing fees.  The chronology is valid in that the patent application was
filed a long time ago, well before any standards activity began. The date
should be in the patent.  The main issue is the very late disclosure.  I
think I have already commented on that on this list - it was a screw-up,
not a malicious act.

Regards,
Marty

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IBM T. J. Watson Research Center
P. O. B. 704
Yorktown Hts, NY 10598
914-784-7287;  IBM tie line 863-7287
Notes address:  Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM
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                      "Frank.                                                                                                                 
                      Christopher"             To:       gummi@dimonsoftware.com, ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org                                   
                      <C.Frank@seeburge        cc:                                                                                            
                      r.de>                    Subject:  AW: [ebxml-dev] Anyone else rather perturbed by IBM's recentannouncement....         
                                                                                                                                              
                      04/18/2002 06:38                                                                                                        
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Flee the hunting ground of the lion by entering the cave of the bear?;-)

Seriously: does anyone have additional information about the validity of
IBM's claim? May somebody from IBM who wants to comment on this?

What would be the worst case scenario? Licence fees or canceling ebXML?

I am having trouble accessing the link
http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/0,14179,2861528,00.h
tml to get the article (timed out). Does anybody have an additional link
or the article itself?

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Christopher

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: gummi@dimonsoftware.com [mailto:gummi@dimonsoftware.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. April 2002 11:37
An: ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org
Betreff: Re: [ebxml-dev] Anyone else rather perturbed by IBM's
recentannouncement....



Should we (i.e. ebXML vendors) switch to BizTalk?!? :-(

Regards,
Gummi Haf

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Gudmundur Hafsteinsson - gummi@dimonsoftware.com
Dimon Software - www.dimonsoftware.com

"... 'cause that's what tiggers do the best!" - Tigger
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                    Andrzej Jan

                    Taramina             To:
ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org

                    <andrzej@chae        cc:

                    ron.com>             Subject:     [ebxml-dev] Anyone
else rather perturbed by IBM's recent announcement....


                    17.04.2002

                    22:41

                    Please

                    respond to

                    andrzej









..that they have patents and IP relating to CPP/CPA's and do not intend
to
license
them for free?

Article on the subject at:


http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/0,14179,2861528,00.h
tml
...Andrzej

Chaeron Corporation
http://www.chaeron.com



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