RE: [ebxml-dev] WS vs. ebXML poll

[colin adam <colin.adam@webservices.org>]

Klaus,

> On 6/14/02 7:49 AM, "colin adam" wrote:
> 
> > That discussion highlighted for me the issue that some people may
see
> ebxml
> > and web services in competition...
> > ...Until today there has been no comments.
> 
> Could it be that this is not seen as competition as pointed out by
Jamie
> and
> others?

Fair enough, why don't we run a new poll and ask that question. Are they
in competition? Is someone who is considering an ebXML solution also
looking at a web services based one....

To make it fair, why not give me the options you want, the question and
we can see what happens. There is an open door policy when it comes to
suggestions for polls and most other things also. 

Some vendors are now releasing B2B web services products and mission
critical networks built on web services etc. Does this not place web
services in competition with ebXML? I realise ebXML is a lot lot more
than web services in terms of specs etc and objectives and is based on
open standards, but vendors are stepping in and filling the gaps,
bringing them into competition. Hence why I personally think this poll
is worth having.   

I look out for the web services journal article.

Regards
colin

PS. By the way, we are also looking for writers and anyone wishing to
write about some of these topics and others is welcome to get in
contact. 

> 
> >I welcome everyone to come and make their opinions know in the
> > comments section under that article once it is published.
> 
> Not knowing what your article will present, let me point you to an
article
> to be published in the July issue of Web Services Journal (pages
48-52)
> titled "ebXML: The Missing Ingredient for Web Services?". Too bad I am
not
> able to submit the text to this group until it is published. The
article
> supports Jamie's view that ebXML is not in competition with WS. The
main
> points made in the article is that ebXML provides functionality to WS
so
> that they can be used for industrial-strength and mission-critical
> applications. Let's not forget that the ebXML infrastructure set of
> specifications provides the only "open, out-of-the-box,
standards-based"
> solution ready for use NOW! As Jamie said, it is not a question of
ebXML
> vs.
> WS but more along the line of ebXML vs. WS-I. How come that IBM and MS
> after
> successfully convincing ebXML to adopt SOAP decided to start up yet
> another
> effort with the same goals? When ebXML was created the term WS did not
> exist, however, had it we most likely would have not called it ebXML
but
> ebWS. In other words ebXML is WS there is no competition. All those
points
> are part of my article. I encourage you to read it.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Klaus
> 
> --
> Klaus-Dieter Naujok             UN/CEFACT/eBTWG & TMWG Chair
> 
> 
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