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Subject: RE: [ebxml-dev] Gartner and ebXML
Its funny that Gartner likes to talk about standards, but is clueless when it comes to the standard definition of a web service: | Definition: A Web service is a software application identified by a URI, | whose interfaces and binding are capable of being defined, described and | discovered by XML artifacts and supports direct interactions with other | software applications using XML based messages via internet-based | protocols | | http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-wsa-reqs-20020429#N100CB regards pk >Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:20:00 -0500 >From: Brian Repko <brian_repko@hotmail.com> >Subject: RE: [ebxml-dev] Gartner and ebXML >X-Originating-IP: [198.212.99.114] >To: steve.capell@redwahoo.com, ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org >MIME-version: 1.0 >List-Owner: <mailto:ebxml-dev-help@lists.ebxml.org> >List-Post: <mailto:ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org> >List-Subscribe: <http://lists.ebxml.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:ebxml-dev-request@lists.ebxml.org?body=subscribe> >List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.ebxml.org/ob/adm.pl>, <mailto:ebxml-dev-request@lists.ebxml.org?body=unsubscribe> >List-Archive: <http://lists.ebxml.org/archives/ebxml-dev/> >List-Help: <http://lists.ebxml.org/elists/admin.shtml>, <mailto:ebxml-dev-request@lists.ebxml.org?body=help> >List-Id: <ebxml-dev.lists.ebxml.org> >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2002 16:20:01.0406 (UTC) FILETIME=[E9DC01E0:01C258E5] > >Steve, > >Thanks for the selected excerpts. However, in looking again >through the material, there are lots of discussions on B2B >scenarios for web services and again, ebXML does not come >up. I did find a reference to ebMS but that was the only >part of ebXML that came up. That reference is in a presentation >(A7 for those that have it too!) by Jess Thompson and Wes Rishel >that discusses standardization of semantics and never mentions >Core Components (and yes, I realize that that is not *technically* >a part of ebXML). It is in fact comparing RosettaNet PIPs >against BPMI (ignoring external vs internal workflow) and never >mentions BPSS. It discusses UDDI (with caution) but never >mentions RegRep. > >For it's part it clearly supports ebMS...but it stops there >and never mentions other parts of the framework when their >direct counterparts and solution space is being addressed. > >It is also a bit upsetting that in a seminar with 29 presentations >on application integration, that not one describes the ebXML >framework - OSI comparison or not - Gartner should at least describe >the business problems that ebXML was designed to solve. Perhaps >that is how it gets marketed. > >My .02 USD > >Brian > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >The ebxml-dev list is sponsored by OASIS. >To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription >manager: <http://lists.ebxml.org/ob/adm.pl> Peter Kacandes Sr. Product Manager, Java XML APIs phone number: 408 276 7139, X17139 Java Software Products email: peter.kacandes@sun.com
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