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>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 18:55:03 -0400 (EDT) >From: PMDF at eList eXpress <postmaster@eListX.com> >Subject: Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed >To: jfh@fsc.fujitsu.com > >Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-language: EN-US > >This report relates to a message you sent with the following header fields: > > Message-id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000823134002.00b20cb0@pophost.fs.fujitsu.com> > Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:45:23 -0700 > From: Jim Hughes <jfh@fs.fujitsu.com> > To: ebxml transport <ebxml-transport@lists.ebxml.org> > Subject: Re: discussion priorities > >Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients: > > Recipient address: ebxml-transport@lists.ebxml.org > Reason: Not found in directory > >Original-envelope-id: 0FZR00J02OZRDR@eListX.com >Reporting-MTA: dns;eListX.com (DIRECTORY-DAEMON) > >Action: failed >Status: 5.1.1 (Not found in directory) >Original-recipient: rfc822;ebxml-transport@lists.ebxml.org >Final-recipient: rfc822;ebxml-transport@lists.ebxml.org >Return-path: <jfh@fs.fujitsu.com> >Received: from DIRECTORY-DAEMON.eListX.com by eListX.com (PMDF V6.0-24 #44856) > id <0FZR00J03OZRDR@eListX.com> (original mail from jfh@fs.fujitsu.com); Wed, > 23 Aug 2000 18:55:03 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from fujitsuII.fujitsu.com (fujitsuII.fujitsu.com [133.164.253.2]) > by eListX.com (PMDF V6.0-24 #44856) with ESMTP id > <0FZR00I2UOZPZ9@eListX.com> > for ebxml-transport@lists.ebxml.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 18:55:02 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from fujitsuII.fujitsu.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by fujitsuII.fujitsu.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09174 for > <ebxml-transport@lists.ebxml.org>; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:54:57 -0700 (PDT) >Received: from jhughes.fs.fujitsu.com > (host013.14.fujitsu.com [133.164.14.13] (may be forged)) > by fujitsuII.fujitsu.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09168 for > <ebxml-transport@lists.ebxml.org>; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:54:56 -0700 (PDT) >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:45:23 -0700 >From: Jim Hughes <jfh@fs.fujitsu.com> >Subject: Re: discussion priorities >In-reply-to: <4.1.20000823135340.06335950@emerald.omg.org> >X-Sender: jfh@pophost.fs.fujitsu.com >To: ebxml transport <ebxml-transport@lists.ebxml.org> >Message-id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000823134002.00b20cb0@pophost.fs.fujitsu.com> >MIME-version: 1.0 >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 >Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii >References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000822213737.00b2f3f0@pophost.fs.fujitsu.com> > <4.1.20000822171519.03ed7960@emerald.omg.org> > <LPBBLBPKDKAJOLGFEMDNIELECAAA.rvd2@worldnet.att.net> > <186F02933E65D4118EA200508BA37277A4C41A@neptune.commerceone.com> > >At 02:11 PM 8/23/00 -0400, Henry Lowe wrote: > >>2. if you don't have ebXML routing (and, as David Webber was >> suggesting, left routing to the network), IMHO, you don't need >> the type of RM Fujitsu is proposing as there are loads of >> protocols out there that already have it (why re-invent it, >> unless, of course, you need it for the end-to-end guarantee >> over multi-hop routes managed by ebXML Messaging Service). > >No, that's not the point for RM. It's provided so that a BP has *at least >one* "reliable" method of communicating with a partner. If you change the >requirement to say that reliability can be provided if the right transport >is chosen, then of course there is no need for further mechanisms. It has >nothing to do with multi-node paths. > >I continue to see confusion about the requirements and definitions of >terms in the requirements. We will be better served by making sure >adjustments/improvements to the requirements are made before getting too >enmeshed in the spec that responds to the requirements. Or, at least when >points are raised as we review the draft spec, we should be fixing the >requirements first... IMHO... > >Jim >
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