Re: What do people really expect from ebXML?

[Mike Rawlins <mike@rawlinsecconsulting.com>]

Can you give us a bit of a break too?  ;^)

William asked:

>But the benefits of Core Components is a tough one to explain. In all
>fairness, it's the most complex piece of ebXML.
<snip>
> We might even say that Core
>Components will lead to an explosion of inexpensive off-the-shelf shrink
>wrapped B2B software - but why?  Why didn't EDI lead to inexpensive
>off-the-shelf shrink wrapped B2B software?

>In short, why is it expected that the standards and products built upon
>the CC specs will result in anything better than what we have today with
>EDI?

Technical people like *my* self would rather discussions be kept short and
focused on the question at hand.   I think [hope by now anyway] we all know what
the problem is.  William is asking how CC's are going to solve it.

David Lyon wrote:

> Mike, All,
>
> We're told,  that at least 500 acres of trees get knocked down each day to
> make paper for receipts. Something totally needless in an electronic world.
>
> I know of one company that spends $700,000 per year on paper to print
> statements. There must be tens of thousands of others needlessly consuming
> world resources.
>
> People *expect* that ebXML will do something about providing solutions that
> will slow down the very real carnage that is going on in the world.
>
> It's possible that people in America may have disposed themselves of the
> Kioto treaties, but the rest of the world hasn't.
>
> Please give us a bit of a break, technical people like myself need
> "specifications" for electronic commerce so that we can produce solutions to
> solve these world problems.
>
> That's what we were told to expect from ebXML !
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Rawlins <mike@rawlinsecconsulting.com>
> To: <ebxml-core@lists.ebxml.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:45 AM
> Subject: Re: What do people really expect from ebXML?
>
> > This discussion seems to have gone from "What do people expect" - which is
> about
> > marketing, to "what do people want?" - which is about requirements.  The
> > authoritative answer to the latter is the ebXML Requirements Spec.
> >
> > Regarding the list of topics which Bob Haugen sent out in a recent
> message:
> >
> > * deliver full UML models from business process to basic
> > components;
> > * be compatible with X12 and EDIFACT;
> > * deliver something simple right now that small businesses
> > who cannot even afford PC's (now $600) can use.
> >
> > This comes closer to a requirements list than a marketing list, but still
> isn't
> > completely correct for CCs or the rest of ebXML, either...
> >
> > I think what William is asking for is what some refer to as "the value
> > proposition".   Perhaps this discussion might yield what he is suggesting
> if the
> > focus is put there.
> >
> > --
> > Michael C. Rawlins, Rawlins EC Consulting
> > www.rawlinsecconsulting.com
> >
> >
> >
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