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Subject: Re: What do people really expect from ebXML? Answer: Saving theEarth??
I'm waiting for pornography and gambling to signal ebXML's entry into the consumer mainstream applications. It worked for the web : ) Eric Chiu, author/certified J2EE architect Imservice, Inc (www.imservice.com) Office 775-355-8200 ----- Original Message ----- From: David Lyon <email@example.com> To: <firstname.lastname@example.org> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 10:31 PM Subject: Re: What do people really expect from ebXML? Answer: Saving theEarth?? > > William, > > You demonstrate that you're obviously an intelligent chap and I have no > issue with your comments on forestation in the U.S. I'm sure you'd agree > though that it would be extremely advantagious if we could all receive our > bills electronically on our computer, rather than as paper shoved through > our letterboxes. It's just so unneccessary as a long term proposition. > > I take it one step further, and would just like some sort of console (like > an ATM) on the wall in the hall. All the bills go there, and I can track and > pay them. I see ebXML as the key to this sort of technology becoming > widespread. > > EDI possibly could have done this, but I think the software got hijacked by > software people who become fixated on the workings of translators. For > whatever reason(s), it is time to move on now and go into the future, which > is mainly going to be dominated by microdevices. > > Microdevices, hopefully running ebXML, certainly could (and already are) > transforming small business. > > Real Estate agents use digital cameras and color printers, and have > 1,000Mflop computers. Even big business had trouble affording that sort of > stuff ten years ago. Last week, I was delivered a parcel, and signed for it > on a digital touchpad. > > I'm not bamboozled by this technology, I'm embracing it, and saying that > ebXML is surely destined for devices like the Linux wristwatch by IBM, or a > console in the car, or in the hallway at home. > > I think want to make ebXML be able to order Pizza and Videos, and collect > parking and petrol receipts. > > The only way to do this is to get it off fixed location backoffice servers > and onto the dedicated hardware where it belongs. > > With regard to SMEs, they are remarkably well equiped now. It's simply > amazing what technology can be bought with just a few hundred dollars. > > Yes, you are correct, ebXML needs to be focused on providing a technical > framework to allow all the PeachTrees, QuickBooks and so forth to work > together. > > Take care > > David Lyon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: William J. Kammerer <email@example.com> > To: ebXML-core <firstname.lastname@example.org> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:17 PM > Subject: Re: What do people really expect from ebXML? Answer: Saving > theEarth?? > > > > David Lyon tells us that "...at least 500 acres of trees get knocked > > down each day to make paper for receipts. Something totally needless in > > an electronic world.... People *expect* that ebXML will do something > > about providing solutions that will slow down the very real carnage that > > is going on in the world. It's possible that people in America may have > > disposed themselves of the Kioto treaties, but the rest of the world > > hasn't." > > > > Saving the environment is a heap o' responsibility to be placed on > > ebXML. But in any case, since the U.S. alone is covered with over 700 > > million acres of forest (almost a third of its land area), we'll have > > lots of receipt printing at 500 acres a day before we make a dent in > > that total - which had *increased* by over 50% since 1920 as America > > became more industrial and urban, abandoning its farmland. Actually, > > there's only a third less forest here now than when European settlement > > began. But, then again, something - besides Native American Indians - > > had to be moved out of the way to accommodate over 280 million people. > > > > Before we get too far off-topic, we should address David's concerns, > > recapped as: "...ebXML should deliver something simple that small > > businesses who cannot even afford PC's (now $600) can use." This seems > > to be a shared sentiment, as evidenced by my good friend Alan Kotok's > > agreement with David that "...we have to think beyond the desktop system > > to hand-held devices." > > > > I have no objection to bringing everyone into the e-commerce fold, > > certainly. But there probably is a point of diminishing returns. David > > made the point that the cost of a PC is not the problem, but whether > > "people in small business can [even] use a PC." But please remember: > > SME doesn't mean "moron." Most of whom we refer to as SMEs are probably > > automated to some degree and do have Internet access - they just don't > > want to jack around with translators and EDI. They, as Todd Boyle has > > pointed out so often, do have Quick Books, Peachtree, or suchlike. > > > > By applying the 80-20 rule, we just might bring most of the SMEs on > > board. That would be an unqualified success. > > > > William J. 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